Theos-Talk Archives (October 2002 Message tt00130)

Yes Bart, But...

On Mon, 14 Oct 2002 10:36:21 -0400 Bart Lidofsky <bartl@sprynet.com>
writes:
> Larry F Kolts wrote:
> > In the Bible, when the Children of Israel first came to Canaan 
> during 
> > the Exodus, they found a settled land. 

You write: 
> Actually, they lived there before they came to Egypt. 

This is true according to tradition, but that was only the extended
family of Jacob (Israel) his sons and their families. Hardly a nation,
but rather a nomatic tribe that claimed no bounderies nor built no
cities. Although, again, according to tradition, Abraham was promised
this land as the inheritance for his posterity and that birthright was
passed down to Isaac and then to Jacob, at that time they did not
"possess the land." That happened only after the Exodus.

Also, 
> the land was not entirely settled; there was plenty of unsettled area. 

Yes, this is true

> According to the Talmud, the Israelites left alone any group that
agreed to 
> leave the Israelites alone (including the Moabites, the Philistines,
and 
> the Samaritans, who DID exist back then)..

Then there must have been an area of the Holy Land known as Samaria even
in those times. Isn't that the land of Ephraim? Anyway, the fact that
there were "Native Samaritans" just as we have Native Americans, in no
way alters the fact of the Assyrian incursion and the importation of
"aliens" who would become the later hated Samaritans.

It should also be pointed out that it is to this early traditional period
that we find the roots of the present day Arab-Israeli Conflict. When
Father Abraham cast out his first born Ishmael for Sarah and Isaac's
sake, the die was cast. Ishmael is the first Arab according to tradition.


Larry Kolts

>Only those who insisted on war got it. The Amalekites, rather than
fight the Israelites head-on, made a sneak attack on the women and
children; that is why they were 
> ordered to be destroyed entirely.
> 
> Bart Lidofsky
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