Theos-Talk Archives (August 2002 Message tt00179)

Aug 19 2002

Re: RAMA, RAMAYANA, RAMACHANDRA, AETHEOPIANS, EGYPT, TROY

Dear Friend:


Regarding the question of plagiarizing the Iliad and the
Trojan war from ancient Hindu legends, I think on
considering the two accounts (Iliad and the Ramayana) this
is quite plausible.

I would say that the additional information and accounts
given to us of pre-history in ISIS UNVEILED and The SECRET
DOCTRINE, and elsewhere in her stories and articles by H P B
will be found not only plausible but accurate.

Early Western archaeology was hampered by biblical
chronology. The figures taken from the Bible were viewed
literally. That allowed the Earth only some 5,998 years
since "creation." If it had been realizes as it later was
that these were DIVINE YEARS of probably some 25,868 mortal
years apiece, a more accurate proportion of time
measurement, concealed by this "blind," would have been
revealed and considered.

I have visited Ceylon many times in the 1950/60 period and
travelled all over it, but have no memory of any place named
"troy" or approximating to that -- but that does not mean it
is non-existent, only, unknown to me.

I see in The SECRET DOCTRINE that the Egyptian zodiac is
related to that of Lanka (Ceylon) --
( S D II 435). Also The SECRET DOCTRINE states that what
is called today Ceylon was at one time a part of Lemuria ( S
D II 7, 324, 332) and, later of Atlantis ( S D II 222 314).
It is now a small island at the south of India and this is
the 5th Globe and 5th Race (Aryan) so there must be some
significance for the small area to be so preserved from yuga
to yuga.

The arts and crafts of ancient Egypt that baffle
archeologists are said to have been brought there from India
( I U II 431, 434-8, I U I p. 6, 515-7, 541, 627; )

The "eastern Aetheopians" are traditionally, immigrants to
the Nile from the Indus river ( SECRET DOCTRINE II 418, and
are also related to the building of the Pyramids ( II 428-9,
751fn) they are reputed to have been under water several
times ( S D II 313-4, 533-4, 352, -- and were credited to
early Adepts as supervising their builders )

RAMA-CHANDRA Means literally RAMA -- a king of the Lunar
(Chandra) dynasty. In India ancient traditions show two
great dynasties ruled in the past, alternating between Kings
of the LUNAR (Chandravansa) and of the SOLAR (Suryavansa)
dynasties.

RAMA (revered by all Hindus) is an ancient king who
conquered Lanka (Ceylon) -- SECRET DOCTRINE II 276,
224fn-5. He belonged to the first "Aryan" (Noble)
dynasty -- the period of this first "Aryan" race is about 1
million years ago ( S D II 470-1, 495),

The Ramayana ( Myth-legend-history ) describes one of the
pre-historical battles between the "Good" (RAMA) and the
"Evil" (RAVANA) races of mankind, but it has to be read
"between the lines" esoterically ( S D II 495-6, 163,
232fn, 394, 629. I U I 566, II 274, 436-8 )

As to possible meetings between members of the THEOSOPHICAL
SOCIETY and the modern Rama Chandra mission (?). It is
quite probable, but seems to have no particular significance
that I have heard of. The nature and objects of this
RAMACHANDRA MISSION ought to be given so as to determine if
there might be any relationship. (see S D I 388, 392, 397)

In a book published by the Vedanta Publishing House is the
whole story of the Ramayana -- it is by "Sister Nevedita,"
and is titled: CRADLE TALES OF HINDUSTAN. Ethel Beswick
also recounts the legend in her GODS AND HEROES OF INDIA.
It is a good source book. Max Mueller in THE SACRED BOOKS
OF THE EAST also gives the account.

Best wishes,

Dallas

Cross posted for information.

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-----Original Message-----
From: M S
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 2:42 AM
To:
Subject: Troj-a and year 2002 B C ...

Hi all of you,

I just found this in Blavatsky's book "Isis Unveiled":


"[[Vol. 2, Page]] 436 ISIS UNVEILED.


We would remind the reader in this connection, that Ravan,
the giant, who, in the Ramayana, wages such a war with Rama
Chandra, is shown as King of Lanka, which was the ancient
name for Ceylon; and that Ceylon, in those days, perhaps
formed part of the main-land of Southern India, and was
peopled by the "Eastern AEthiopians." Conquered by Rama, the
son of Dasarata, the Solar King of ancient Oude, a colony of
these emigrated to Northern Africa. If, as many suspect,
Homer's Iliad and much of his account of the Trojan war is
plagiarized from the Ramayana, then the traditions which
served as a basis for the latter must date from a tremendous
antiquity. Ample margin is thus left in pre-chronological
history for a period, during which the "Eastern AEthiopians"
might have established the hypothetical Mizraic colony, with
their high Indian civilization and arts. "



Question 1:
So the city of Troj-a has to be discovered at Ceylon or Sri
Lanka ?
Where exactly ?



Question 2:
One could ask : Has this "Rama Chandra" anything to do with
the present day organization
"Rama Chandra Mission" (http://www.srcm.org ) ?

Question 3:
Has and there ever been a meeting or important contacts
between Theosophical Society and "Rama Chandra Mission"
(http://www.srcm.org ) ?



Feel completly free to do your best.



from
Sufiligth with peace and love...




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