Theos-Talk Archives (August 2002 Message tt00115)

Dear Brian:

The SECRET DOCTRINE deals with a system far wider and deeper
than the purely physical matter that our modern science
contacts. The MAHATMA LETTERS are the precursors to The
SECRET DOCTRINE .

Ask yourself: What underlies the physical? How do the
millions and billions of atoms molecules, cells aggregate to
provide forms and bodies of various kinds. We don't begin
to know al the laws concerned-- there are wide fields of
discovery in the area of magnetic fields, growth patterns,
sensitivity, intelligence, consciousness, and so forth It is
actually staggering the amount that we DO NOT KNOW. Yet,
NATURE got here before us and sustains us -- How and Why ?

And after experience (human) then what ? No continuity?
What a waste. Is the nature of man's mind determined solely
by his body and brain? Study the annals of neuroscience and
find out how many odd cases of continuing intelligence even
when the brain is severely impaired there are. ask, then
ask: why ? and How ?

As to pre-history -- The SECRET DOCTRINE provides a far
wider reaching and more comprehensive view than archaeology
or paleontology or geology do.

Don't condemn before you have thoroughly investigated. Ask
questions by all means, but first make sure you grasp the
extent of what is offered.

I have spent many years with both science and The SECRET
DOCTRINE and found that they do not disagree, nor does
modern science have all the keys to knowledge.

We know of the phenomena of electricity and magnetism and
science evolved the theory of the transfer of current by
electron movement and transfers -- but that does not tell us
what ELECTRICITY is.

Our science is discovering some facets of what NATURE has
already set up or laid down. It is not doing anything more
than trying to find out how NATURE did that. So there is a
vaster SCIENCE than our modern scrambling for the last 3 to
400 years. We are "kids" compared with the Science of
centuries and millennia. Also we cannot build :Pyramids.

Best wishes,

Dallas

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-----Original Message-----
From: brianmuehlbach [mailto:brianmuehlbach@yahoo.com]
Sent:	Tuesday, August 13, 2002 2:17 AM
To:	theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
Subject:	Theos-World Re: The Mahatma Letters.

Bart Lidofsky :According to the Mahatma Letters, the
Aborigines have
the remnants of the CIVILIZATION of the 4th Root Race; this
is what
probably caused the confusion. Certainly, from the
description of
the 4th Root Race, it is clear that their bodies were not
what we
currently call "humanoid."

Brian: Blavatksy's ideas regarding root races and so on it
seems
are based on the premise of "the Great Chain of Being."

The "Great Chain of Being" was popular during the early
Renaissance where certain "scientists" assumed that every
existing thing in the universe had its "place" in a divinely
planned
hierarchical order, which was pictured as a chain vertically
extended.
("Hierarchical" refers to an order based on a series of
higher and
lower, strictly ranked gradations.)

An object's "place" depended on the relative proportion of
"spirit"
and "matter" it contained--the less "spirit" and the more
"matter,"
the less evolved it was seen . At the bottom of the
hierarchical model for
example, stood various
types of inanimate objects, such as metals, stones. Higher
up were
various members of the vegetative class, like trees and
flowers. Then
came animals; then humans; and then angels or "spiritual
beings.".

Then within each of these large groups, there were other
hierarchies.
For example, among metals, gold was the noblest and stood
highest;
lead had less "spirit" and more matter and so stood lower.
(Alchemy
was based on the belief that lead could be changed to gold
through an
infusion of "spirit.") The various species of plants,
animals,
humans, and angels were similarly ranked from low to high
within
their respective segments. Finally, it was believed that
between the
segments themselves, there was continuity (shellfish were
lowest
among animals and shaded into the vegetative class, for
example,
because without locomotion, they most resembled plants).

Besides universal orderliness, there was universal
interdependence.

This was implicit in the early Renaisance doctrine of
"correspondences,"
which held that different segments of the chain reflected
other
segments. For example, Renaissance thinkers viewed a
human being as a microcosm (literally, a "little world")
that
reflected the structure of the world as a whole, the
macrocosm , so too
was the human body it was assumed. composed of four
substances
called "humours."

"Correspondences" existed everywhere, on many levels. Thus
the hierarchical organization of the mental faculties was
also
thought of as reflecting the hierarchical order within the
family,
the state, and the forces of nature. When things were
properly
ordered, reason ruled the emotions, just as a king ruled his
subjects, the parent ruled the child, and the sun governed
the planets.
But when disorder was present in one realm, it was
correspondingly
reflected in other realms.

Stripping "The Secret Doctrine"'s system from its
ontological and
cosmological assumptions leaves us with an attempt at for
example
classifying humans.



Brian

--- In theos-talk@y..., Bart Lidofsky <bartl@s...> wrote:
> Mic Forster wrote:
> > Are the Aborigines of a lower evolutionary state than
> > the white man, as conjectured by Leadbeater and other
> > theosophists?
>
> Well, first of all, technically speaking, WE'RE at the
lowest
> evolutionary state; remember, we reached this point from
an
> INvolutionary process.
>
> According to the Mahatma Letters, the Aborigines have the
remnants of
> the CIVILIZATION of the 4th Root Race; this is what
probably caused
the
> confusion. Certainly, from the description of the 4th Root
Race, it
is
> clear that their bodies were not what we currently call
"humanoid."
>
> Bart Lidofsky




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