Theos-Talk Archives (July 2002 Message tt00269)

July 30 2002

Dear Friend:

As i study Theosophy and read The SECRET DOCTRINE I would
say:

The demarcation between "good" and "evil" is sharply
defined -- no "grey" areas.

Motive is everything. One cannot escape the moral equation
in any consideration. If we attempt this then we create a
false situation -- an isolation - which leads to
inaccurate results.

Wrangling and argument (by their own nature and
definition -- a conflict of personal opinions) is a
worthless expenditure of energy, and as Nature supervises
all it is not placed in the category of USEFUL or
BENEFICIAL.

True value is the study of Nature and facts in evidence.
The rest is speculation which ends in futility. Which would
we rather deal with?

The designations of the Priests would seem to depend on the
powers and forces they used and appealed to.

Theosophy says the facts and powers of Magic (wisdom of the
secret operations of nature) may be used well (harmoniously
with NATURE) or abused and cause suffering and destruction.

The Solar division, appealed to the LIFE-GIVING beneficent
powers of the SUN -- symbol of LIFE. The Universe is held
together by such forces universally distributed and in
general qualified as spiritual.

In the constitution of Man (by the 7-fold principles) this
would be found in ATMA-BUDDHI (the eternal MONAD). Its
quality is WISDOM AND LIFE-EVER-LASTING. This is stable and
immovable, being universal. It is also harmless,
charitable, generally useful and beneficent Briefly put
this is VIRTUE which throws the light of TRUTH on all
considerations.

The Lunar division, appealed to the DEATH-GIVING powers of
selfishness and isolation. These are non-eternal, and
usually do not survive death.

These were associated with the Psychic nature and are a
characteristic of the "Moon" as a "dead planet, a corpse."
This represents the material side which constantly
changes -- as our desires, passions, feelings, yens or hates
come and go, so do the powers of the "Moon -- the psychic
shadow." It is briefly, vice that hides from virtue.

The matter of application to a calendar may be guessed at
because of the nature of the foundation. But you are trying
to dissect a certain aspect away from the rest, and this
cannot be done. Even in the laboratory, there is no
possibility of doing anything that is entirely pure. The
contaminations can be minimized but isolation as such, is
quite impossible -- even in the most sterile of
environments. Any Scientist will concede this as a fact.

The SECRET DOCTRINE teaches that the Moon is a kind of
psychic vampire. it is the corpse of that which was in an
earlier manvantara our Earth. It follows the Earth today
and creates the various fluctuations we see such as tides,
illnesses, epidemics, wars, etc... it seems to have power
over our feelings and sentiments. It is the "false soul" in
Man -- the Kama manas -- or the embodied (lower-mind)
united with passions and desires.

What is it in Man that sees and perceive this? It is the
Mind. -- the true Soul united to WISDOM (Buddhi).and the
life force of the eternal SUN.
Hence there is a natural conflict between the two calendars.

All priesthoods seem to espouse the qualities and natures of
the psychic -- the Moon.

And that's about all I can say. But get out your INDEX to
The SECRET DOCTRINE and check the entries and statements
made on the powers of the Sun and Moon and see for yourself
if they bring some satisfaction.

Best wishes,

Dallas

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-----Original Message-----
From: jeffkingplace
Sent:	Monday, July 29, 2002 8:03 PM
To:
Subject:	Re: White and Black Magic -- Calendar dispute



Dallas:

Re White and Black Magic

Your inquiry about White or Black magic then becomes a
> question of our motive. Why do we choose to use the
powers
> and forces of nature in and through ourselves to do
wrong?
> It is the continual battle between selfishness and
> unselfishness, evil and good.

Jeff:

Dallas, I do understand that that it is usually assumed that
this is all a matter of good and evil, and the Lunar priests
seem to be labeled in some way as bad.

But, as I suggested in my post, I don't find any evidence
that this was a matter of good and evil, or that it had any
moral basis.

Now when you have two groups rangling, it is most likely
that there will be attacks upon the opponent's character,
much like we have in today's politics. This, however, is
only polemics, and not the real issue. In this particular
matter, it seems to me that there were two groups (of
priests??) who were vieing for the accceptance of their own
calendar as being absolute.

One was charged with being traditionally old, and the other
as innovatively new.

Both may have moral shortcomings, as well as positive
claims, but neither could be charged with evil or even
commended for the moral good on the basis of calendar
reform.

Now, I may be wrong in my assumption, and I may be forming a
conclusion too soon, but just now, it seems that the whole
matter was a calendar dispute, and if so, the whole moral
question is only a smoke screen. The real matter at issue
was calendar reform.

What do you think?

Jeff

CUT