Theos-Talk Archives (July 2002 Message tt00227)

TO THE INQUIRER: "What is Avatar?" Harry Palmer authored 
this 'offworld' elegant clearing tech, and introduces one to this 
wonderment at <www.avatarepc.com>. ENJOY!



Namaste! Nara-Narayanas!!!

Thanx SO much for your interest and assistance. I really appreciate 
this jesture. :-)

Whilst awaiting my connect at BN which is still incomplete;-), I 
decided to read "The Secret Doctrine", and am now in "Isis 
Unveiled". This equates with my vintage impetus as I have thus far 
studied many of the sited references...i.e. The Roscrucians, The 
Mayans, The Kabbalah as well as it's interpretive Shustah, Hebrew, 
and many more being a native voyager prior to diving into clearing 
processing as Scientology, Avatar, The Purple Notebook On How To 
Escape From This Universe, Steve Mensing's Emoclear - to flow the 
idea a bit.

I found the end result ALL WAYS being that all roaming and winding 
roads lead to the same identical TRUTH essence of ALL THAT IS/ALL 
THAT IS NOT and BEYOND to *HOME*. These expansions release blocks 
to TRUTH for OWNERSHIP by targetting, penetrating, permeating and re-
surfacing to enjoy a greater DEPTH of understanding and 
havingness...a MOST WORTHWHILE LIFE PROJECT...and my ONLY JOB this 
incarnation. :-)

Mark Twain's dazzling character SATAN in his "The Mysterious 
Stranger" is my ideal beingness *reference point* displaying 
his 'native state abilities' stripped of ALL RESISTANCES TO TRUTH 
throughout the Multiverse. This 'process' alone awakens one to our 
FULL potential which is simply in the dormant pralaya (sp?) 'asleep' 
state-but yet attainable HERE and NOW...the SUPREME STATE-or as some 
refer to as our NATIVE STATE.

I look forward to digesting, absorbing, to 'recall' each and every 
one of these golden 'wake up call' gems.

Again thanks!

*Vishnuva*...*Vishnuyakti*...*Purushottama*

KNOWELL 


"How beatiful it is to do nothing, and rest afterward!" Spanish 
Proverb

-- In theos-talk@y..., <dalval14@e...> wrote:
> July 27 2002
> 
> Dear Friend:
> 
> Sorry you have had troubles, see if the following helps:
> Lets start with a question: THEOSOPHY -- What Is It ?
> 
> 
> Our present day knowledge of Theosophy is derived from the
> writings of
> Mme. H. P. Blavatsky. She lived between 1831 and 1891. Her
> providing
> of Theosophy as a philosophy, science and religious
> compendium began
> around 1875.
> 
> In 1875, the Theosophical Society was launched to promote
> and sustain
> three objects:
> 
> 1.	To form the nucleus of a Universal Brotherhood, without
> distinction
> of race, color, or creed.
> 
> 2.	To promote the study of Aryan [noble] and other
> scriptures, of the
> World's religion and sciences, and to vindicate the
> importance of old
> Asiatic literature, namely of the Brahmanical, Buddhist, and
> Zoroastrian philosophies, and
> 
> 3.	To investigate the hidden mysteries of nature under every
> aspect
> possible, and the psychic and spiritual powers latent in
> man...
> KEY TO THEOSOPHY, p. 39 ]
> 
> 
> Today a number of fraternally affiliated yet, independent
> Theosophical
> societies flourish and a United Lodge of Theosophists exists
> which
> offers all students of whatever affiliation a free forum for
> the study
> of the original literature of Theosophy and cooperative
> work.
> 
> One may say that Theosophy in our modern World is aimed to
> demonstrate
> the validity of "Universal Brotherhood," a recognition of
> the "Family
> of Man.," and encouraging cooperative work on an impartial,
> non-sectarian basis.
> 
> In 1877 Madame Blavatsky, published the book: ISIS
> UNVEILED. It was
> a sensation. It went through many editions in rapid
> succession. In
> this she reviewed the history of Science and Theology in
> respect to
> the invisible and hidden side of Nature. In response to
> questions
> and further demands, she founded and edited, along with Col.
> H. S.
> Olcott the magazines The THEOSOPHIST (India) in 1879, and
> later
> LUCIFER (London) in 1887.
> 
> In 1888 she published The SECRET DOCTRINE . Another
> sensation. In
> this book, she provided a survey (as a summary taken from
> the secret
> libraries and records of the age-old College of Adepts) [see
> Isis,
> Vol. II, pp 98 - 103] of creation -- COSMOGENESIS, and of
> Man's
> evolution, not only as a physical form, but psychologically
> and
> spiritually -- ANTHROPOGENESIS.
> 
> In this she takes the reader through the metaphysics that
> form the
> basic concept of Universal Evolution, and with their help,
> she
> explains how it is the Spiritual Essence which informs and
> energizes
> "material forms" with intelligence and consciousness.
> Evolution, is
> therefore considered to be three-fold.
> 
> 1. material in our bodies,
> 
> 2. psychologically in our desires and thoughts, and
> 
> 3. spiritually in our aspirations and virtuous urges.
> 
> In this she demonstrates the view held by the ancient Sage
> Patanjali :
> "The Universe exists for the Soul's experience."
> 
> Theosophy, in brief, deals with the "causes" for our
> existence, and
> the presence of the invisible Spiritual and psychological
> universe
> that underlies, as energic Force, as the "causal
> motivation," of the
> visible Universe we are familiar with.
> 
> It posits the concept that every atom of matter ( "monad")
> is alive
> and is aware in its own way. As an individuality it is
> continuous,
> and never "dies." It has a spiritual, and immortal center
> of energy,
> a "Force," which is the "cause" of its existence. No event,
> no
> experience, is ever "lost," but all are indelibly impressed
> on the
> living consciousness of these innumerable "Monads." These,
> when
> condensed out of invisible matter, make up the material
> "forms" we
> deal with daily. The concept of "invisible" matter ("dark
> matter") is
> an old one to Theosophy.
> 
> The "monads" are held, metaphysically, to be indissoluble
> compounds of
> two "poles" of variance. These are held united by the bond
> of
> interactive intelligence (Mind). They are "Spirit" (as
> perfection and
> wisdom), and "Matter" (as limitation and ever shifting form)
> bonded
> together for eternity as living units by the unitary
> consciousness
> that gives them their permanent individuality and
> immortality. Each
> of these three-fold Units are said to be, as a "Force,"
> inextinguishable.
> 
> Theosophy holds that it is these eternal "Pilgrims" that
> form all the
> components of evolution. These provide in a regulated
> manner, and
> through a vast process of planned evolution, the individual
> development of that increasing Intelligence that is innate
> to each of
> them. These increments and experience, lead to
> self-conscious
> individualization. Expressed in various ways, but
> essentially: "I AM
> I" It is held that evidence for this lies in the existence
> of
> humanity. "I think, therefore I am," said Descartes.
> 
> But the progress of the vast army of thinking and individual
> Monads is
> held to proceed, from the level of intelligence we might
> designate as
> the "Man-Mind," to a perception of, and an understanding
> of the
> entire universe. [ "The Universe grows I." is one way of
> expressing
> this.]
> 
> Since this course of learning would be impossible to achieve
> in a
> single life-time, the process of "reincarnation" is said to
> exist,
> both as a process and as a law of development. It is
> averred that
> there is an ultimate goal of individual perfection to be
> attained.
> This "ultimate goal" is expressed mystically, as " Supreme
> Perfection," or "Universal Wisdom." It is a concept that
> has long
> been held by ancient Brahmanism, Buddhism and Zorastrianism.
> 
> It will be seen, on reflection, that these concepts provide,
> the
> interactive basis, that every choice or change at any level
> has
> ethical / moral consequences. Ancient Hinduism speaks of
> this as
> "karma" or, the effects that are consequent upon any
> "choice." For
> it is held that the "Mind-Man" is a free agent and his
> decisions cause
> the progress of evolution for the whole Universe to advance
> or slow
> down. [ It is for this reason that Patanjali offered his
> observation
> quoted above. ] Karma provides for the exact return of
> moral and any
> other impressions to whoever generated any cause.
> 
> Our human physical forms are observed to become
> incapacitated and grow
> incapable and obsolete over time. This leads to the
> dissolution we
> call "death." But Theosophy posits that the experiences of
> a
> life-time, as "memories," survive the death of the physical
> form.
> They are the continued basis for every increment of
> knowledge and
> wisdom. These memory-impressions are said to be impacted in
> the
> imperishable spiritual aspect of every Monad. From this,
> the remote
> Goal is posited as : Sublime and Universal Perfection for
> each
> individual Monad.
> 
> With this in view, the reader is invited to look at the
> following
> expressions abstracted from Theosophical literature.
> 
> ================
> 
> 
> "Theosophy is Divine Knowledge, or Science, "Divine Wisdom"
> (Theo-Sophia) -- the term is many thousand years old."
> KEY TO THEOSOPHY , p. 1.
> 
> 
> "Theosophy is synonymous with everlasting Truth."
> KEY TO THEOSOPHY, p. 302.
> 
> 
> "We have no two beliefs or hypotheses on the same subject."
> KEY TO THEOSOPHY , p. 72.
> 
> 
> "Theosophy is the substratum and basis of all the
> world-religions and
> philosophies taught and practised by a few elect ever since
> man became
> a thinking being." The THEOSOPHICAL GLOSSARY p. 328.
> 
> 
> "The "Wisdom Religion" is the inheritance of all the
> nations, the
> world over." S D I xviii
> 
> 
> "Theosophy [is]...the one bond of unity which is so
> universal and
> all-embracing that no man, as no speck -- from gods and
> mortals down
> to animals, the blade of grass and atom -- can be outside of
> its
> light. Therefore any organization or body of that name
> [Theosophical]
> must necessarily be a Universal Brotherhood."
> H P B: IS THEOSOPHY A RELIGION ? H P B Articles, (U L T),
> Vol. I, p 59,
> [ LUCIFER Nov. 1888.]
> 
> 
> Theosophy is Not New
> 
> 
> This suggests that THEOSOPHY is not a new fangled system of
> collated
> ideas drawn from many sources. In fact, if it were even
> that, then the
> marvel is of HPB's mind and capacity in drawing such a vast
> diversity
> together and showing how the many pieces fit together to
> form a
> seamless whole in the world of ideas and concepts. In our
> experience
> and wide reading, there is no one who has written such a
> comprehensive
> view of our world, universe and the important part that
> Mankind plays
> in that.
> 
> 
> Who was H. P. Blavatsky?
> 
> 
> HPB does not claim "authority." She claims to be a
> "messenger."
> Specifically a messenger from the Great and Ancient Lodge of
> ADEPTS.
> She offers the teachings of the Great Ones, the Elder
> Brothers of
> humanity as a bouquet of "culled flowers" for us to
> appraise.
> 
> In both ISIS UNVEILED and The SECRET DOCTRINE she disclaims
> any
> personal authority and gives the credit for the records she
> transmits
> to the Real Authors, the Mahatmas. [ see certificate of
> authorship,
> by H P B and the two Mahatmas, PATH, Vol. VIII, p. 1 ]
> 
> Since she was well aware that Theosophical theories and
> hypotheses
> would be received with various degrees of incredulity from
> the
> academies, she was careful to make it clear that the
> information was
> in reality taken from the HISTORY that the Adepts and their
> disciples
> (chelas) had recorded down the ages. All that she requested
> was
> "equal time" and an open-minded consideration of what
> Theosophy had to
> offer.
> 
> She wrote in ISIS UNVEILED :
> 
> "When, years ago, we first traveled over the East, exploring
> the
> penetralia of its deserted sanctuaries, two saddening and
> ever-recurring questions oppressed our thoughts: Where, who
> what is
> GOD ? Who ever saw the IMMORTAL SPIRIT of man, so as to be
> able to
> assure himself of man's immorality?
> 
> It was while most anxious to solve those perplexing problems
> that we
> came into contact with certain men, endowed with such
> mysterious
> powers and such profound knowledge that we may truly
> designate them as
> the sages of the Orient. To their instructions we lent a
> ready ear.
> They showed us that by combining science with religion, the
> existence
> of God and immortality of man's spirit may be demonstrated
> like a
> problem of Euclid. For the first time we receive the
> assurance that
> the Oriental philosophy has room for no other faith than an
> absolute
> and immovable faith in the omnipotence of man's own immortal
> self. We
> were taught that this omnipotence comes from the kinship of
> man's
> spirit with the Universal Soul--God ! The latter, they
> said, can
> never be demonstrated but by the former. Man-spirit proves
> God-spirit, as the one drop of water proves a source from
> which it
> must have come...all the rest may be inferred...Blind faith
> would no
> longer be necessary, he would have supplanted it by
> KNOWLEDGE....prove the soul of man by its wondrous
> powers--you have
> proved God !" I U , Vol. I , p. vi
> 
> "The essence of Theosophy is the perfect harmonizing of the
> divine
> with the human in man."
> H P B -- FIVE MESSAGES TO AMERICAN THEOSOPHISTS , p. 6.
> 
> 
> What does Theosophy teach?
> 
> 
> The immortality of man's Spirit/Soul and the "God-Spirit,"
> being
> present in every "life-atom" of our living universe are
> fundamental
> concepts. Everything in Nature may be seen to trend in its
> life-experience towards a higher degree of knowledge,
> wisdom,
> perfection.
> 
> Each life-cycle (incarnation) is like a separate day at
> school and all
> are drawn together by the uniting thread of the immortal,
> and eternal
> spiritual Self which is at their core. In fact she shows
> how
> Theosophy traces the evolution of the "consciousness and
> intelligence"
> of the SPIRITUAL SOUL or Monad, through many forms -- from
> the atom to
> the human condition of independent free-will.
> 
> This sweep and concept is one that can be traced in every
> one of the
> great religions and philosophies of the world. It is the
> record of
> their existence and of our participation, again and again,
> in those
> processes.
> 
> 
> "Her main teachings can be reduced to the following
> propositions:
> 
> That Morals have a basis in Law and in fact.
> 
> That Moral law is Natural Law.
> 
> That Evolution makes for Righteousness.
> 
> That the "fundamental identity of all souls with the
> Oversoul" renders
> moral contagion possible through the subtle psychic medium.
> 
> That the Spiritual Identity of all Being renders Universal
> brotherhood the only possible path for the truth-seeking
> man."
> [ H P B Articles (U L T ) Vol. I p. 115. From: SHE
> BEING DEAD
> YET SPEAKETH -- PATH, July 1892 ; Vol 7, p. 121 ]
> 
> 
> "True Theosophy is everything that aids or elevates mankind;
> and our
> chief object is not so much to gratify individual
> aspirations, as to
> serve our fellow men." PATH, Vol. IV, p., 96
> 
> 
> Theosophy the Root of All Religions
> 
> 
> Currently there is debate as to whether Theosophy has its
> roots in
> Buddhism, Hinduism, Jainism, etc... It is understood that
> scholars
> who are familiar with those systems and their development
> can trace
> similarities. However HPB claims that all those were
> derived from the
> "Sanatana Dharma," the "Perennial Philosophy." which is an
> ancient and
> universal record of Life's development and history.
> 
> As such, it claims to be at the root and at the origin of
> all the
> great ancient religio-philosophical systems and provides a
> reason for
> their development, as systems of practice, leading to that
> kind of
> "initiation" which develops Wisdom in thought and mind as
> well as,
> simultaneously, the application of compassion and
> harmlessness in
> motive.
> 
> "...the Wisdom-Religion was ever one, and being the last
> word of
> possible human knowledge, was therefore, carefully
> preserved. It
> preceded by long ages the Alexandrian Theosophists [ 1st
> Cent.] ,
> reached the modern, and will survive every other religion
> and
> philosophy."	KEY TO THEOSOPHY , p. 7.
> 
> 
> Thus, Theosophy is not exclusively religion, or philosophy
> but also
> includes science -- as the power to investigate and record
> the
> workings of NATURE (Life as a whole) in every stage,
> visible or
> invisible, and in every department of the world and our
> Universe.
> 
> The sweep of the ever-present immortal Life, through cycles
> of
> evolution lead each Monad at last to a "goal," the
> "all-Knowingness"
> of the PERFECTED MAN. The designation Mahatma (Great Soul)
> is one
> that includes all such self-developed men of superior
> knowledge and
> nature.
> 
> The SECRET DOCTRINE therefore speaks of those as the
> intelligent
> guides {Dhyan Chohans, and Dhyani Buddhas], and
> Self-conscious
> assistants that Nature employs to recreate and supervise a
> fresh
> evolutionary effort, a "new Day," of evolutionary progress
> for all
> beings.
> 
> 
> Encourages Independent Inquiry
> 
> 
> If this is grasped, as a working and actual concept, the
> minute
> details and studies of specialists, while respected, as
> continuing
> proof of the inclusive nature of Theosophy, are also shown
> to be but
> the outer covering, or, to be but some one way selected to
> approach to
> the interior mystery of man's own immortal Mind, and of
> Nature's
> infinite capacities to assist that Mind to grow. The
> process Nature
> employs is reincarnation. It is reembodiment under the
> exacting Law of
> universal Karma.
> 
> If this infinite capacity of the human mind to grow and to
> understand
> the most simple, as well as the most complex subjects is
> granted, the
> more learned will continually encourage those who now are at
> various
> stages of learning to investigate and prove for themselves
> all
> avenues, however diverse, of information, tradition and
> lore. And
> that is the always growing tip of the self-enlightening
> Mind. It
> always widens out to that which is permanent and universal,
> when given
> a chance to emerge from ignorance, doubt, skepticism and
> lethargy of
> authoritarianism.
> 
> "[ THEOSOPHY ] Its creed is Loyalty to Truth, and its ritual
> "To honor
> every Truth by use." KEY
> 
> 
> "The true Theosophist is a philanthropist -- "not for
> himself, but for
> the world he lives." This and philosophy, the right
> comprehension of
> life and its mysteries will give the "missing basis" and
> show the
> right path to purse." -- Mahatma K. H.
> 
> 
> Universal Science, Religion and Philosophy
> 
> 
> In regard to the prevalence and diffusion of theosophy as a
> science
> and a philosophical religion, it has been expressed :--
> 
> 
> "Proofs of its diffusion, authentic records of its history,
> a complete
> chain of documents, showing its character and presence in
> every land,
> together with the teaching of all its great Adepts exists to
> this day
> in the secret crypts of libraries belonging to the Occult
> Fraternity." S D I xxxiv.
> 
> 
> "The members of several esoteric schools...claim to have in
> their
> possession the sum total of sacred and philosophical works
> in MSS and
> type; all the works, in fact, that have ever been written,
> in
> whatever language or character since the art of writing
> began; from
> the ideographic hieroglyphics down to the alphabet of Cadmus
> and
> Devanagri." S D I xxiii
> 
> 
> "The work [ISIS UNVEILED ] now submitted to public judgment
> is the
> fruit of a somewhat intimate acquaintance with Eastern
> adepts and
> study of their science....It is an attempt to aid the
> student to
> detect the vital principles which underlie the philosophical
> systems
> of old....We believe in no Magic which transcends the scope
> and
> capacity of the human mind, nor in "miracles." I U I
> p. i
> 
> 
> "Our work, then, is a plea for the recognition of the
> hermetic
> philosophy, the anciently universal Wisdom-Religion, as the
> only
> possible key to the Absolute in science and theology." I U
> I p vii
> 
> 
> "The SECRET DOCTRINE is not a treatise, or a series of
> vague
> theories, but contains all that an be given out to the world
> in this
> century." S D I xxxviii
> 
> 
> "The aim of this work [ The SECRET DOCTRINE ] may be thus
> stated: --
> 
> 1. To show that Nature is not "a fortuitous concurrence
> of atoms,"
> 
> 2. and to assign to man his rightful place in the scheme of
> the
> Universe;
> 
> 3. to rescue from degradation the archaic truths which are
> the basis
> of all religions;
> 
> 4. and to uncover, to some extent, the fundamental unity
> from which
> all spring
> 
> 5. finally to show that the Occult side of Nature has never
> been
> approached by the Science of modern civilization." S D
> I viii
> 
> 
> The Future
> 
> 
> "The problem of true Theosophy and its great mission are,
> first, the
> working out of clear unequivocal conceptions of ethic ideas
> and
> duties, such as shall best and most fully satisfy the right
> and
> altruistic feeling in men; and second, the modeling of
> these
> conceptions for their adaptation into such forms of daily
> life, as
> shall offer a field where they may be applied with most
> equitableness.
> Such is the common work placed before all who are willing to
> act on
> these principles."	THE GREAT MASTER'S LETTER, LUCIFER,
> January, 1888, Vol. I p. 344. U L T Pamphlet No. 22, p. 13
> 
> 
> "Theosophy alone can gradually create a mankind as
> harmonious and as
> simple-souled as Kosmos itself; but to effect this
> theosophists have
> to act as such... [helping] to awaken the spirit in many a
> man" H P
> B Articles (U L T) , Vol. I, p. 105
> -- THE TIDAL WAVE. [LUCIFER, Nov. 1889.]
> 
> ===============================
> 
> 
> 
> ========================
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: scionaut
> Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 8:35 AM
> To:
> Subject: Please help me anyone?
> 
> I am new to Theosophy and this group-first day in fact-Hello
> Everyone!:-)
> 
> For months now, I have unsuccessfully attempted to sign up
> for
> the "Online Study Group" and "Quote of the Day" to be
> delivered to
> my inbox. I have written Carson@BN at least seven times-no
> response. I have reworked my original application at BN
> many times
> as well.;-)
> 
> I am happy to be in yet another exploration ~CLUSTER~ into
> the "ALL
> THAT IS/ALL THAT IS NOT and BEYOND to *HOME*".
> 
> My grandmother was a metaphysician and astrologer, and I was
> indeed
> fortunate to have been left in her care in my 'mind full of
> mush
> years=2-5 to be introduced to 'Purusha'and many 'underground
> amazements' at a very early age coming to believe/KNOW that
> there
> are no miracles or mysteries any where/any when...the trick
> is
> accessing the entry point.
> 
> I am an Avatar Master (Harry Palmer's Avatar Course), and
> have
> completed the Scientology 'Bridge'to present my 'favs'. But
> this
> incarnation has predominantly been to explore each and every
> facet
> of the various belief systems, and continue in the
> space/time
> continuum 'going beyond'. This IS my passion and certainly
> a most
> exhilarating impetus!
> 
> Best of the Best To You ALL!
> 
> N