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Re: Theos-World RE: U L T practises and rumors - Buddhism, Animal Sacrifices, etc...

Jul 14, 2002 07:46 PM
by ramadoss


Dear Everybody:

I lived several decades in India. In none of the branches of every denomination of theosophical organizations, everyone was welcome and no money was charged for any meetings or study classes. All funding needed was met by volunteers who were mostly kept a low profile. In addition, all meetings of branches were open to everyone, man, woman and child -- yes child. It was not unusual to see three or four generations present in meetings. Likewise, everyone one of the lectures of Krishnamurti was free and open to everyone - man, woman and child, not one time anyone talked about funding. Donor unasked took care of. May be India is "old" fashioned!

mkr

PS: No plates were passed around in meetings either!

At 01:20 PM 7/14/02 -0700, dalval14@earthlink.net wrote:
July 14 2002


Dear Bart:

I know nothing of Yoruba. Buddha argued against animal
sacrifices and shamed Brahmins *( who had become perverted
from continuing them overtly). Theosophy does likewise, and
adds that the attempt to fasten, by the misuse of will-power
the "sins" of any one on an animal or a person, etc// is
sorcery. The motive is wrong.

Just applying what we are taught about Karma, brotherhood
and the e=immortality of all Monads and Skandhas ought to
tell us that the concept is wrong and anti-life.

At least that's my reasoning.

The secondary consideration is the power placed on a Lodge
by a "contributor." I say in such a case GOOD BYE
CONTRIBUTOR.. Theosophy does not need such support.
Theosophy cannot be bought nor can any special place be
reserved for its promulgation.

I expect this is not quite in tune with this age, but I
think it is in tune with the history of spiritual work.

Dal

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-----Original Message-----
From: Bart Lidofsky [mailto:bartl@sprynet.com]
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 8:12 AM
To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: Theos-World RE: Re: U L T practises and rumors

dalval14@earthlink.net wrote:
> DUES VS. CONTRIBUTIONS
>
> In U L T all contributions are anonymous and carry no
> special weight.
>
> But Bart, do you have any actual reference where H P B
said
> she preferred "dues" to "contributions ?"

It is in the Collected Writings, an article
explaining why the TS
started charging dues (I believe it was 1 pound a year). I
came across
this article about 8 years ago; the New York Lodge was
charging
ridiculously low prices for classes, so low that, based on
contemporary
American standards, people thought the classes were garbage,
and the
only people showing up were those for whom money was the
primary
consideration. So I researched the Collected Writings, the
Secret
Doctrine, the Mahatma Letters, to demonstrate that there was
no problem
with using programs to raise money, and that we need to run
the Lodge to
conform with the society around it, not some society which
existed on
another continent a century ago.

I don't have a copy of the Collected Writings handy
at the moment, but
I do remember I was looking up in the index things like
money, fees, and
Lodges.

> My recollection of the By Laws and Rules of the T S does
in
> now way make it appear that "contributors" would have any
> particular force or power when compared with "members."
Do
> you have any direct references ?

Consider: A lodge has a bookstore. It carries books
on Yoruba. A major
contributor to the Lodge says that, as Yoruba involves
animal sacrifice,
books on the subject should not be in the bookshop, and s/he
will stop
the contributions if the book remains in the bookshop. What
do YOU think
will happen?

Bart Lidofsky


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