Theos-Talk Archives (June 2002 Message tt00004)

Saturday, June 01, 2002

Dear Mauri and Friends:

In my esteem it is more important to ask : "What can I do to assist
others? "

Finding out only for myself or to satisfy my curiosity or a desire to
learn is fine -- but then what ?

You worry about the ultimate use of things? Well, since we are all
immortals, why worry? We'll be around and still working. We will in
the lives to come be able to assist or to manage everything. What
else does a potential "god" do -- it serves.

In a cooperative universe the individual acquires WISDOM so as to
serve others better. By volunteer assistance and care, by love,
devotion and mercy it tries to show others the wonderful parameters of
excellence in sharing. Let's look at dancers -- do the fight or
cooperate? How do they et to be so good? Do they not seek to blend
their differences into a unit that can work harmoniously with the
rhythm, music, and purpose of a dance ?

We need as someone else suggests attention. Attention is focusing the
mind. Attention is being able together all relative information, and
make of the hodge-podge a reasonable and consecutive whole. How do we
acquire the ability to do this?

Look at Patanjali's YOGA APHORISMS, and see how he has discussed the
nature and training of the "embodied mind" -- of a mind, of ourselves,
as embodied in substance and the matter of our wonderfully diverse and
cooperative bodies. Attention is one of the preliminary stages to
meditation.

It means nothing that we speak of "esoteric" or "exoteric." Those are
expressions meant to trap others. they do not trap us, unless we like
the sound of our own words. They are not profound, but superficial.
The true esoteric is that which deals with the "Soul" of things, with
their essential being and with the reason and principles of their
action and existence. It implies a deep and vast knowledge -- wisdom
in fact, as to what to say, and what not, as what to say to whom, and
what not. Any one who is sincere, diligent and assiduous in study can
acquire this power. And having it he hides it. It is there, but is
only used for good, and not to advertise however subtly the position
that the believes is his. It is like the old game: "I have a
secret." and all the curious try to pry the fact from the carefully
dropped clues.

Let us also look at the wonderful teaching opportunity we have in and
upon our selves. We the Mature thinker, able to perceive and to
contrast, able to cooperate and to analyse -- we are at a point where
we choose the path that will be ours.

Now, why is this so? First let us prove we have that power. That we
are able to select, to control and to work with anything that we elect
to do, or any situation, or any person. In so doing, we learn how to
adapt ourselves to them. We employ what has been called our "plastic
potency." It is the inner magic of interaction which immortals deal
with in their relations with other immortals. Nature is pervaded with
it. But, there are whose who, limiting themselves to forms perceived,
believe that those exist by chance and for no particular design.

So, to my mind it is the purpose of our working that is valuable. WHY
DO WE DO ANYTHING?

Why are we here anyway?

Ah! That is the beginning of discovery.

Or, that is how I express i to myself.

Best wishes,

Dallas

Dallas

-----Original Message-----
From: Mauri
Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2002 6:11 AM
To:
Subject: re: "pre-view" and . . .


Dallas wrote: <<A tree is inherent -- in potential -- in a seed. A
flower is inherent and in potential in a bud. The life-program, that
brings any advancement is already innate in all things. It is like a
pattern cast in flexible elctro-magnetic force-fields which pre-view
the many potential future developments and possible purposes of
anything.>>

The word "preview" in that context seems interesting to me in that it
occurred to me that there "might be" (well, just sort of "exoterically
speculating," here, "of course," in a sense,
unfortunately---tsk---rather
than sort of "esoterically speculating" :-) so it occurred to me that
there "might be" (ie, in my highly speculative/interpretive/exoteric
terms . . . ) a kind of "pre" "viewing" or "pre" something going on
in
our "general field of awareness" (on some "conscious/unconcscious"
level) that "might be" like an introductory or pre step or advantage
or
potential or levarage that, as per our "present/general awareness,"
might be, ("apparently"?), the "only pre-insight/view" that we humans
"might" generally have access to by way of what "might be seen" (?) as
an "introduction" of sorts re "Reality" or "As Isness" . . .

But, if "Reality" is "Really" more like "As Isness" . . . then what .
.
.
in that isn't "As Isness" ("even" in "less-" or "non-dualistic" terms
.
.
.) "more likely" to be some kind of modification of a modification . .
.
(in the sense that, for example, Gerald might have in mind when he
might pipe up with the likes of "atma/buddhi is mayavic" . . . ?)
Well,
but then (of course?) that's all dependent on how we "interpret" "As
Isness" . . . and "w/Whatever" . . .

Or maybe there's a fundamentalistic conflict of some kind (in terms of
"apparent preferences") between, say, "more fundamentalistic" "As
Isness" elements/influences (that might be seen as "more exoteric". .
.
.) and "Beness" elements/influences (that might be seen as "more
esoteric" . . .) . . . "whatever" . . .

Or, maybe, as an alternative to "Beness," we might (optionally?)
choose
"Whatever" . . . :-)

Speculatively,
Mauri

PS If anybody had told me in my younger days that Theosophy was THIS
much fun, I might've thought they were crazy.

PPS . . . why is it that, as I get more serious (if in my speculative
way) I tend to find more and more curious, APPARENT absurditiesand
funnies, even from my perspective . . . I don't get it . . . I TRY
to
be responsibly serious, (generally speaking, I like to think) but . .
.
things happen to me, apparently. On the other hand, if certain kinds
of
things (like some so-called "humorous things," say---even from my
perspective) just happen to me, just personally, well, THEN of course
that's not as bad as things COULD be, eh . . . Well, not that things
might not be bad enough, as it is, already, but, well . . . at least
things are not worse, eh . . . If that's any consolation . . .

PPPS Dallas, I suspect, "on the other hand," has, it seems, smartly
avoided various pickles and things by . . . well, by those ways and
means that Dallas "HAS," apparently . . .

PPPPS Well, I suppose we all tend to . . . whatever we "tend to" . .
.

PPPPPS As for MY ways and means, since I'm FAR more ambitious
than Dallas, (in a certain kind of "sense," I seem to like to think .
.
. :-)
of course I regularly get myself in all kinds of things . . .

PPPPPPS If this kind of PPSing and stuff isn't "too moody," eh, then
what is . . .

PPPPPPPS "w/Whatever" . . .

PPPPPPPPS How'd you like to "pray" to "Whatever," instead of to "God"
.
. . Yikes . . . !? Would that kind of prayer be less "black,"say, to
some Theosophists . . . But of course we humans can "symbolize" our
way,
"more meaningfully," by symbolizing "Jesus", "God," etc., out of our
various "w/Whatever's" . . . "Symbolize" as in "creatively assign
meaning to"---not that there's anything much wrong with that, exactly,
as far as I can see, particularly . . . but then, well, I suppose some
Theosophical types might not be too keen on symbolizing "too much" re
"ANYTHING" . . . "whatever" . . .

CUT