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Re: Theos-World Re: What does Bill Meredith think about Olcott's Experiences with the Masters?

Mar 30, 2002 05:47 PM
by Bill Meredith

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From: "danielhcaldwell" <>
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Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 8:56 AM
Subject: Theos-World Re: What does Bill Meredith think about Olcott's
Experiences with the Masters?

> Bill,
> Now I see what you want to discuss. You don't really want to discuss
> Olcott's experiences or discuss your hypothesis about them and your
> reasons for "adopting" that hypothesis.
> You want me to look critically at my own biases and prejudices in
> the process. I see: this is the whole issue to you.

This is the whole issue for one who presents himself as neutral, creates
charts, uses the 4 step process to discover the truth, and ignores how his
bias and prejudice influence his discovery process right down to the nitty
gritty of which words he chooses.

> No doubt, I have prejudices and biases. And you don't? I assume
> that you might have them too. And since Steve Stubbs has a similar
> opinion to mine about Olcott's experiences, I guess he also has
> prejudices and biases. What about Muehlegger? We could spent weeks
> discussing not only my biases but everyone else's too. :)

Of course we all have bias and prejudice. If 'weeks' is too much time for
you to invest in self-discovery and improvement of your thought processes,
then how much time are you willing to invest?

> But the real question is: can all of us put aside at least for the
> time being those "preferences" and "biases" and try to rationally
> discuss and understand Olcott's "alleged" experiences.

Well if you had put aside your preferences and biases you would have chosen
different words to formulate your statements of fact and subject lines. I
simply pointed this out to you. Even above, you cannot bring yourself to
refer to Olcott's experiences as alleged. No, you must qualify with
quotation marks (modifiers) the same as Blavatsky did "devil". Now I don't
mind that you believe what you can't help believing. I do mind when you
claim to have laid aside your prejudice and biases for a neutral scholarly
look at something as mundane as Olcott's alleged experiences and still use
words like Master instead of 'master'.

> Maybe you will say this only reflects one of my "biases". Perhaps.


> Bill, when I have the time to study and compare your hypothesis 6
> with the views of others, I will be most happy to discuss that
> hypothesis with you.

Well if you discuss it using your present thought processes which have
obviously become inculcated in your mind, little will be gained. But have
it your way. Mine was but to point out that you have not laid aside your
bias as you claim. Do with that observation what you will.


> Daniel
> Bill Meredith wrote:
> > Daniel,
> > I offered you the opportunity to look critically at your own
> experience
> > instead of losing yourself trying to analyze the historical
> accounts of a
> > dead man. The bias and prejudice of your thought processes of
> which ample
> > evidence exists in your writings is not a side issue. It is the
> whole
> > issue.
> >
> > I urge you to examine your thinking and search for that delicate
> moment in
> > the process where one's beliefs become one's truth, and one's truth
> becomes
> > the one truth, and the one truth becomes the basis for one's
> beliefs.
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