Re: Theos-World Ether
Feb 25, 2002 00:45 AM
Apparently, the "ether" as the medium for the propagation of light is not so
dead after all -- even though Einstein "killed it" when he found it didn't
fit in with the mathematical concepts of quantum theory. However, Einstein
later reversed his position, and admitted that there must be an "etheric"
(beyond measurement) medium in which light is propagated through, when he
realized, after failing to find a consistent Unified Field theory to link
relativity with quantum mechanics and electrodynamics, that his
"gravitational constant," levered into the equations of the "standard model"
to make relativity consistent with quantum cosmology, was an artifact that
had no reality unless there was such a "medium."
After the advent of string theory (leading to Superstring and then to M-brane
theory, which is, in essence, a "unified field" theory similar to what
Einstein was searching for) many physicists have apparently begun considering
that the "ether," as the medium through which light is propagated, is related
to the field of sub-quantum energy "perturbations" that surrounds the
zero-point within the Planck distance (between the "quantum particle" and the
"zero-point") -- where quantum "probability" supposedly comes into play.
I've heard that some scientists are considering that the Schrodinger's
equations, which still doesn't resolve the gap between relativity theory and
quantum theory, may have to be modified to account for this.
It seems to me that the idea of "imaginary probability waves" are also
nothing more than a mathematical artifact that has no direct relationship
(other than symbolic) to actual reality -- which, in my view, has to be based
on fixed laws of cyclic motion (of primal "space") rooted in abstract "spin"
circling around the zero point in its pre cosmic rest state -- which must
continue to be expressed causally in the post "big bang" zero-point
scientific "vacuum" aspect of metric space... Where all "zero-points are, in
effect, in the same place (or coadunate) -- which may account for quantum
"entanglement" or "action at a distance" on that scale, and also, for all, so
called, "psychic phenomena." (Incidentally, HPB clearly pointed out these
relationships in the SD.)
The problem with all these scientific theories (not realities), and why
science has not yet come up with any consistent Unified Field theory, is that
the materialistic biases of conventional academic scientists forces them to
ignore the "motive powers" -- (based on the highest frequency/energies
underlying the unseen and immeasurable coenergetic fields "coadunate but not
consubstantial" with the "material" fields they can observe and measure) --
that are instrumental in energizing both "consciousness" and "will." This
prevents them from seeing the forest for the trees. A problem that will
continue so long as they cannot include these energies as well as their field
interactions and effects in their equations.
However, the new mathematics that underlies M-brane theory -- which does
unify relativity with quantum theories, and merges "waves" with "particles"
-- is getting closer and closer to a final answer to the fundamental
questions of; What is light? Where does it come from? What does it travel in,
on or through? (Although, they are not there yet.) But, when those
fundamental questions are finally and unequivocally resolved, there will be
no more separation between the "fundamental principles" of theosophy and
those of science.
And, when, not too long from now, hopefully, this "new paradigm" of science
is applied (by the practitioners of the new field of "Cosmic Engineering")
the revolution in technology based on zero-point energy (ZPE) supporting new
possibilities in space exploration and travel, as well as the healing
potentials for both humanity and the planetary biosphere and ecology --
leading to a possible future "paradise on Earth" -- will be mind boggling.
All that remains to make that dream a "present" reality, would be for the
people themselves, individually and as a whole, to accept such a new
"theosophical science" as the ONLY true reality, and apply its precepts to
their own mind changes and ways of life -- supported by the idea (which they
can verify by the world's past history) that "Universal Brotherhood" is, in
fact, a law of nature that cannot be broken today without "Hell to pay"
For further information (both basic and advanced) on String, Superstring and
M-brane theories and how they grew out of and relate to both relativity and
quantum mechanics, dynamics and cosmology, go to:
As to how all that relates to theosophy, go to:
In a message dated 02/23/02 7:27:54 AM, firstname.lastname@example.org writes:
>I agree that Einstein helped kill the notion of ether ("disproved" is
>not a correct expression). However, that's an old story. According to
>quantum theory, what propagates in space is the imaginary waves of
>probability, which hardly need a material medium to travel through.
>Therefore, it could be said that there are two kinds of reality:
>some medium filling the entire space (it might be called ether or
>aether), and the waves of information going in all directions and
>controlling the excitations of the medium. An alternative point of
>view, which is impossible to refute, is that there is simply an empty
>space and the waves of probability (no medium).
>Moreover, after Einstein it has been discovered that the theory of
>electromagnetic waves (which includes the theory of light as a
>particular case) can be reinterpreted in terms of quantum mechanics
>as the theory of probability waves [technically speaking, it means
>that Maxwell's equations can be rewritten as Schrodinger's equations
>and interpreted accordingly]. Ergo, no need for medium supporting
>propagation of light.
>--- In theos-talk@y..., Mic Forster <micforster@y...> wrote:
>> Hi Dennis,
>> Einstein, in 1905, disproved the notion that light needs a medium
>to travel through, unlike other waves such as sound. Consequently the
>notion of the "ether" or "aether" has been disregarded. Though this
>is not to be confused with the ether that theosophy talks of. This
>ether is something entirely different.
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