Theos-Talk Archives (February 2002 Message tt00783)

Hi Eldon and all of you,

Allright Eldon.
My point is: Is the black hole 'black' and/or is it alive and kicking ?
I really like it to be alive and kicking, because that is really honestly my own spiritual experience of that particular place in the universe, and nobody, not even Eldon is going to make me think different, just because theysay so.

Feel free to do your best.

from
Sufilight with a smile - being alive above the wastline... 


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Eldon B Tucker" <eldon@theosophy.com>
To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 1:47 AM
Subject: Theos-World the central Sun


> Sufilight:
> 
> >> Blavatsky mentioned in the SD a "central sun" in the Milky Way,
> >> "a point unseen and mysterious, the ever-hidden center of
> >> attraction of our Sun and system.
> 
> > Answer: You have my word for, that this place exists - and
> > is very alive and kicking !
> 
> One way of thinking of black holes is that they are suns that are
> in a state of non-being or non-existence for a time, before they're
> ready to reemerge into existence again.
> 
> If we can think of a black hole as an example of a sun, then
> the gigantic black hole at the center of our galaxy could be
> thought of as a "central sun."
> 
> Following is from an Interesting article in the January 10, 2002
> CHICAGO TRIBUNE which I just found from a search on google.com.
> 
> -- Eldon
> 
> ----
> 
> > Explosive surprise at center of galaxy
> >
> > By Ronald Kotulak
> >
> > Tribune science reporter
> >
> > January 10, 2002
> >
> > Using a powerful new orbiting observatory, astronomers have
> > looked into the center of our Milky Way galaxy for the first
> > time, and what they saw looks pretty much like the grand finale
> > fireworks display on the 4th of July.
> >
> > Picture this: The center is crammed with a sparkling array of
> > hundreds of white dwarf stars, neutron stars, black holes,
> > supernova explosions and new star formation with a supermassive
> > black hole at the center surrounded by a gigantic
> > 10-million-degree cloud of dust that is blowing outward and
> > reaching us.
> >
> > "This is a surprise--that the center of the galaxy has such a
> > rich structure," said Michael Turner, chairman of the University
> > of Chicago's astronomy department. "When you see more things you
> > can understand more."
> >
> > Astronomers had suspected that the center contained a big black
> > hole, but they had no inkling of what was causing the enormous
> > amount of energy emanating from the galaxy's heart.
> >
> > The new discovery shows the center to be a much more fearsome
> > place than anyone had ever suspected, as if some of the weirdest
> > and wildest objects of the universe came together in blazing
> > glory in the very same place.
> >
> > "The central region is much more turbulent than I thought, much
> > more complicated, and there's a lot of mystery still there," said
> > Daniel Wang of the University of Massachusetts, who reported the
> > findings Wednesday at the American Astronomical Society meeting
> > in Washington, D.C. A published account of the findings appear
> > in the current issue of the British science journal Nature.
> >
> > Looking into the heart of the galaxy has not been easy. The
> > inability to see what was going on there left astronomers
> > guessing about what made the nucleus tick.
> >
> > The spiral-shaped Milky Way is about 80,000 light years across
> > and contains more than 100 billion stars. Our solar system is
> > some 26,000 light years from the center, but our line of sight to
> > the center is obscured by the huge dust cloud.
> >
> > As a result, regular telescopes can't see the center. But X-rays
> > can because they pass through the dust.
> >
> > Taking images with NASA's new Chandra X-ray Observatory, Wang,
> > along with Eric Gotthelf of Columbia University and UMass
> > postdoctoral researcher Cornelia Lang, got images that were 100
> > times sharper than those from radio or infrared telescopes and
> > the sharpest-ever images of the center, revealing hundreds of
> > X-ray-emitting white dwarf stars, neutron stars and black holes.
> >
> > "For the first time we can now detect 1,000 energy sources at the
> > center of the galaxy compared to about a dozen sources that had
> > been previously known," Wang said in a telephone interview.
> >
> > "We can now study how the environment around the center interacts
> > with the large black hole in the middle, and we can learn a great
> > deal about how these things actually work," he said.
> >
> > The Chandra observatory was named after the late University of
> > Chicago theorist Subrahmanyan Chandrasekhar, who won the Nobel
> > Prize in physics in 1987 for his work on the physical processes
> > important for the structure and evolution of stars. The
> > observatory was launched into orbit in 1999.
> >
> > "Without the X-ray eyes of Chandra, we would miss not only some
> > of the most exotic things going on in the universe, but the bulk
> > of the things going on," Turner said.
> >
> > Unlocking galactic nuclei
> >
> > The UMass discovery is helping to revolutionize our understanding
> > of the Milky Way's nucleus and it is the key to understanding all
> > other galactic nuclei in the universe, Andreas Eckert of the
> > University of Cologne, Germany, wrote in a Nature commentary.
> > The visible universe is thought to contain more than 100 billion
> > galaxies.
> >
> > Wang likens the center of the universe to the downtown of a big
> > city surrounded by its neighborhoods and suburbs. "What happens
> > in the center of our galaxy matters because it affects not only
> > the center of the galaxy but the rest of the galaxy as well," he
> > said.
> >
> > Not only could the new information help scientists understand the
> > mechanics of what makes the galaxy work, but it also could
> > provide more clues about the creation of our solar system and the
> > evolution of life.
> >
> > It could even help foretell the future of our sun, since white
> > dwarfs are dying stars that were about the size of the sun but
> > have now shrunk to about the size of the earth. A spoonful of
> > material from a white dwarf weighs several tons.
> >
> > Neutron stars were once the size of about three suns, but have
> > shrunk and condensed into a ball of neutrons about 12 miles in
> > diameter. A spoonful would weigh as much as Mt. Everest.
> >
> > Universe's monsters
> >
> > Black holes are the universe's monsters. Typically they form
> > when a star dozens of times larger than the sun explodes and the
> > leftover material condenses to an infinite density. The gravity
> > is so strong that not even light can escape. The humongous black
> > hole at the center of the galaxy is believed to be the size of 3
> > million suns.
> >
> > "We don't know how this big black hole in the center formed, so
> > being able to more clearly see the most energetic things
> > happening there will help us understand its origin," Turner said.
> >
> > Wang's findings indicate that the huge, superhot dust cloud at
> > the center is created by constantly exploding supernova. The
> > enormous heat and pressure created when a star explodes creates
> > all of the heavy elements from iron on up.
> >
> > The cloud, which contains all of the elements that go into making
> > up planets and people, has been expanding outward since the birth
> > of the universe.
> >
> > "The gas spreads out to the suburbs of the galaxy, including our
> > solar neighborhood, and it contributes to the basic elements
> > which appear in our bodies," Wang said.
> 
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