Theos-Talk Archives (February 2002 Message tt00583)

Hi Brigitte and all of you,

>From the below: I guess did't understand your Austrian, and what you reallywanted. Could you please clarify the comment below - because I don't understand you.

I don't totally know who is the Avatar of today (physically speaking), and what it implies to be an Avatar. I am not the Avatar - at least not publicly. ;-) (Smile).
Does anyone know who it is ?

Does the below imply, that you think that the world would be better of, if Sai Baba wanished - physically ?

from
Sufilight with love...and som Rugrats doing the floor for their parents...

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "bri_mue" <bri_mue@yahoo.com>
To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 1:30 PM
Subject: Theos-World Re: Sanskrit terms and book-lore or metaphysics.


> Yes everybody read this mail from you already but this has notting to 
> do with the specific claim by Sai Baba's followers that S.B. is 
> believed to be the current world Avatar.
> But may be you don't know what current world avatar means, I'l just 
> leave it at that.
> Bri.
> 
> 
> --- In theos-talk@y..., "Morten Sufilight" <teosophy@m...> wrote:
> > Hi Brigitte and all of you,
> > 
> > Thanks for your questions.
> > 
> > To answer first question:
> > Well - yes, primarily theosophy. But I am referring to other areas 
> of teaching too.
> > 
> > To answer second question:
> > 1. I have made an email to theos-talk describing my views - some 
> few weeks ago.
> > 
> > Here they are again:
> > You know I live in Denmark far away from India.
> > When being a child I had a friend - a little - troll - with red 
> clothes helping me.
> > When I later came to learn of Sathya Sai Baba he resembled that 
> little troll.
> > I have also had a dream with Sai Baba - about some family affairs, 
> but they are not to be made official.
> > And I have had other strange encounters with Sai Baba involved.
> > But he/she (Sai Baba also acts as a woman) is not the only one I 
> have had strange encounters with.
> > 
> > 2. About: Sathya Sai Baba from India.
> > I don't KNOW much. But I can answer questions about his teachings. 
> I have at home about 500 pages overview of his teachings - compiled 
> by Al Drucker and other close devotees of Sai Baba. These pages are 
> referring to either one or more of Sai Baba's own books - or to books 
> made by weelknown educated Sai Baba devotees - some of them are 
> former devotees today - and some are dead (physically speaking).
> > 
> > Story's about Sai Baba:
> > 1. I know of a girl in Denmark who had visited Sai Baba. He made 
> ICE-cubes to her - out of the thin air (!) - while the tempeature was 
> well above 30 Celsius.
> > Well I don't know where he hides Icecubes on him. If anyone has an 
> idea - then let me know. (Maybe he has a small mini-freezer on him 
> somewhere ?)
> > 2. Another one - a guy in Denmark claim to have seen him physically 
> in his own kitchen.
> > 3. A welthy woman in USA had a visit of a burglar. She came to her 
> special Sai Baba room - where she had a - natural size photo of Sai 
> Baba standing on an alter or the like. The burglar was in them room. 
> The woman got frightened - a prayed Sai Baba for help. And suddely 
> Sai Baba jumped out of the photo. The burglar - suddenly got busy 
> running out and away. (I can't confirm this story, but I think it is 
> funny.)
> > 4. A woman in Denmark gave a lecture on Sai Baba shortly after her 
> arravial back home in Denmark. She said, that one of the women who 
> lived with her in one of the bungalow's/appartments at Puttaparthi 
> (Sai Baba's headquarter so to speak), - thought, that if Sai Baba 
> really was who he said he was (i.e. the avatar of the age), then he 
> would certainly make a rose appear in the sky.
> > She told, the woman from Denmark that a day later or so. Then later 
> while staying in Puttaparthi, she suddenly saw a rose in the sky, 
> while she was looking out of the window of the bungalow - and the 
> danish woman and a few other followers also saw it.
> > 5. It is said, that he (or should I say she) came to a hospital in 
> India once. There he came in with white clothes on - looking like a 
> nurse. He came in - as a woman - to another woman and cured her from 
> a severe disease. (But I can't confirm the story.)
> > 
> > And there are numerous other stories about Sai Baba - and strange 
> events taking place. I have more of them from Denmark and elsewhere.
> > 
> > As for his alleged - 'fakings' and 'sexual abuses'. I am open on 
> that. But I haven't seen, what I call, any real proof's on it yet. 
> But I am all ears on it.
> > Well people didn't like Jesus either, so what is new?
> > One shall know them on their fruits.
> > 
> > There is a old book, which was written about the same time as the 
> Quran. The name has slipped my mind right now, but it is said to be 
> the gnostic bible of the Middle East. This book talks about an avatar 
> coming. The avatar is decribed. The describtion - is that a small man 
> with curly hair like a crown, will come as a savoir. - Quite 
> interesting right ?
> > 
> > In the Bible - the savoir at doomsday - has the word 'truth' 
> written on him.
> > Interesting - that 'Sathya' means 'truth'.
> > Sathya Sai Baba says that he is the one who Jesus Christ said would 
> come.
> > I.e. the Spokesman - the Spirit of Truth.
> > 
> > I have been a member of the Sathya Sai Organization for a few 
> years. But I dropped out. I felt that I had other things to take care 
> of.
> > 
> > Being devoted like a little doggy - is not so bad. But if the human 
> is bad - well then the human is bad - right ? (So the doggy should 
> watch out. Right?)
> > Some doggy's are afraid and some doggy's are biting human's. Why it 
> is so, well ask God - ParaBrahman or maybe your very own self.
> > 
> > And for the record: Sai Baba has several times - officially - said 
> that he is against blind faith, and that people should cultivate 
> their characters !
> > But a lot of Sai devotees - doesn't really listen, I think ! (They 
> are like dogs after a biscuit.)
> > 
> > What I think about him ? Well someone said, that he was an ALIEN ! 
> (funny)
> > I think, that that covers it perfectly ! Don't think he is a 
> ordinary guy(or girl) - for sure.
> > One shall know them on their fruits - right ?
> > Sai Baba has done good to many people. So to say he is entirely 
> bad, I think would be really wrong.
> > 
> > 
> > Just ask if you want some info on Sai Baba. I can compare his 
> teachings (called Purushothama Yoga) with theosophy - if it has any 
> interest.
> > Others might also help.
> > 
> > But, what about the so very important word 'character', what do you 
> have on that Brigitte ?? How have you developed that during your 
> studies ??
> > 
> > I hope this is okay ?
> > 
> > from
> > Sufilight with answers and a weird look in his eyes...
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "bri_mue" <bri_mue@y...>
> > To: <theos-talk@y...>
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 11:24 AM
> > Subject: Theos-World Re: Sanskrit terms and book-lore or 
> metaphysics.
> > 
> > 
> > > With "Sanskrit terms and book-lore or metaphysics", are you 
> referring 
> > > to Isis and the SD, or the later Theosophical literature ?
> > > 
> > > And what do you know about Sai Baba as current world Avatar ?
> > > 
> > > Bri.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In theos-talk@y..., "Morten Sufilight" <teosophy@m...> wrote:
> > > > Hi all of you,
> > > > 
> > > > A Barnard -quote
> > > > 
> > > > "Some folk like to spout a lot of Sanskrit terms like Prana, 
> > > Pranayama, and Karma and what not, as if there were some virtue 
> in 
> > > foreign words, but it would do their souls a power more good to 
> be on 
> > > a course of household drudgery, scrubbing floors and so 
> > > forth...because the first step towards merging with Brahm or God 
> or 
> > > the Infinite or the Universal Spirit or whatever you like to call 
> it 
> > > is a sympathetic understanding of one's fellow men. The 
> background of 
> > > true Yoga is not book-lore or metaphysics but character. Without 
> > > character all the book-lore and metaphysics are sounding brass 
> and 
> > > tinkling symbols." --Pierre Bernard 
> > > > http://www.vanderbilt.edu/~stringer/bks.htm
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > One might not agree with Pierre Bernard alias Oom the 
> Omnipotent 
> > > alias JMH (the Initiated of Cyril Scott, but the above seems 
> allright.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > from
> > > > Sufilight doing the floors...together with some scholars and 
> > > Ph.d's....
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > 
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