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Re: Proof - Gupta-Vidya...Baba

Feb 11, 2002 06:42 AM
by Morten Sufilight

Hi Jerry and all of you,

Thanks for asking Jerry.
Answer: My view is, that - Ignorance - bars the way for someone.

Blavatsky wrote in the book:
"The same may be said of the whole Esoteric system. One turn of the key, and no more, was given in "Isis." Much more is explained in these volumes. Inthose days the writer hardly knew the language in which the work was written, and the disclosure of many things, freely spoken about now, was forbidden. In Century the Twentieth some disciple more informed, and far better fitted, may be sent by the Masters of Wisdom to give final and irrefutable proofs that there exists a Science called Gupta-Vidya; and that, like the once-mysterious sources of the Nile, the source of all religions and philosophies now known to the world has been for many ages forgotten and lost to men, but is at last found."
(The Secret Doctrine, vol. 1, p.xxxviii).

The single individual gets the necessary proof, when spiritual experience comes - I calim to know this. The scholars, the ignorants etc. cannot understand this. And that is that.
The knowledge and proof og Gupta-Vidya is a state of mind. The "final and irrefutable proof" HPB mentions is maybe for the individual and not for the Planet as a whole. Do you understand that idea Jerry ?

So I ask the Theosophists - who could this mentioned "Disciple" be, if sucha disciple had arrived, writing year 2002 - 21th century ??

Is it Sai Baba ?? (i.e. my most likely candidate - a lot of people is said to be cured and healed my him ! I.e. he gives proof by elevating peoples minds and bodies ! Do you understand that ? -- But now some say he has turnedfake...)
Was it Gurdjieff ?? (Paul K. Johnson's idea or plan)
Was it CWL - i.e. Charles Webster Leadbeater ?? (John Beers idea)
Was it Alice A. Bailey ?? ( the Bailey-peoples idea)
Or somone else for instance Ghandi, Martin Luther King Jr., or Annie Besant, etc. ??

This was the question(s)

You are the readers
What are the answers if anyone of you has an opinion at all??

(I at least find this more important than dwelling with wheather a lady smoked weeds in 1875.)

Feel totally free Jerry...

Sufilight with the flag of Gupta-vidya riding high...

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gerald Schueler" <>
To: <>
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 3:22 PM
Subject: Theos-World Re Proof

> <<<One just need a spiritual experience - then proff is there. Well you have my word for it.>>
> Dear Morten, thats one of the silliest things I have heard yet, no offense intended. If anyone had "proof" of the Theosophical core teachings, then everyone would be a Theosophist. If anyone could "prove" spirituality, there would be no materialists. Please think about what you are saying. Your word, I am afraid, proves nothing to anyone, not even to yourself. I spent years "proving" the truth of Christian Science, and I have relatives who have"proved" that Jesus is alive and well, and their proof is just as good as yours or mine.
> Jerry S.
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