Theos-Talk Archives (February 2002 Message tt00057)

Dear Adelasie,
It would be my pleasure, but this is my interpretation
and I am sure others see it differently (and that's
what makes this world great).

The best way to explain it would be to give an
example. Everyday I go to the same cafe to eat lunch.
When I enter there is invariably one or two customers
eating their lunch or drinking coffee. I order my meal
and sit down to eat it. Let's say this occurs at
1.05pm. At approximately 1.07pm another customer
enters the cafe closely followed by several others.
These customers do not know eachother or have any form
of association. They have merely had the preconception
of enetering this cafe to eat lunch. At approximately
1.20pm the cafe is once again quiet with myself
remaining and a few other customers. In the next ten
minutes two more customers enter to order their meals.
Then at approximately 1.35pm eight or nine customers
enter the cafe in close sequence and these people,
once again, have no relation to each other what so
ever. Given this my interpretation of synchronicity
would be a series of causally unrelated events
coinciding in time and space. 

A great scientist, though history has not proven him
so yet, Paul Kammerer went to a great deal of trouble
to scientifically document the phenomena of
synchronicty. He would sit for hours on a park bench
and record details of those who walked passed him,
such as age, appearence etc, to see if he could record
this phenomena of synchronicity. One day I too decided
to see if I could record it. Although I am sure my
methodology was somewhat flawed I did find that
casually unrelated events were occurring. My methods
were to sit in a public place, in this case the path
leading to the Opera House here in Sydney (thereby I
could get a diverse range of people from all over the
world), and note males over the age of 15 if they had
facial growth or not. Assuming facial growth was less
common than not having facial growth, I found that
there were extensive periods when there would be males
with no growth followed by short periods of males with
growth. As noted above my methodology was not entirly
sound (ie a bus load of Middle Eastern men could have
walked past hence adding bias to my results).

Perhaps I should quote a passage from Kammerer himself
and I am sure anybody who is reading this would have
experienced something similiar at some stage in their
life:

"On September 18, 1916, my wife, while waiting her
turn in the consulting rooms of Prof. Dr. J. v. H.,
reads the magazine "Die Kunst"; she is impressed by
some reproductions of pictures by a painter named
Schwalbach, and makes a mental note to remember his
name because she would like to see the originals. At
that moment the door opens and the receptionist calls
out to the patients: "Is Frau Schwalbach here? She is
wanted on the telephone."

Another example from Kammerer: "on November 4, 1916,
his brother-in-law went to a conert where had had seat
No. 9 and cloakroom ticket No. 9; the next day, at
another concert, he had seat No. 21 and cloakroom
ticket No. 21".

An example from my own experience: I was in the city
walking to go to a meeting when a homeless man asked
me for some change. I quickly felt in my pockets and
found no change so I apologised. He obviously did not
find this too sincere as he cursed at me as I walked
off. Feeling somewhat bad I returned later with some
change but he was no where to be seen. I went home to
prepare myself for an engagement that evening. Leaving
the house I was halfway to the train station only to
realise that I left my jacket at home. Consequently I
missed the train I planned to catch. The train I
eventually caught unexpectedly broke down at a station
and we had to alight for another train. On alighting I
noticed a $2 coin on the ground and I thought the
great wheel of karma was shining upon me. Once back in
the city I unexpectedly saw that homeless man again
and duly gave him the $2 I had found and a few more
coins I had in my possession.

Now in regards to synchronicity and theosophy.
Although I have not read extensively the theosophical
literature, what I have read indicates that the ego
returns to the physical body when it has had enough of
the spiritual world. To me this is completely
unsatisfactory and I hope I have either misread what I
have read or I haven't read enough. Presently, I am of
the opinion that we go through stages of our evolution
according to the law of synchronicity. That is, a
series of causally unrelated events coincide in time
and space to return us back to the physical plane or,
for that matter, any other plane. 

Another area which I am dissatisfied with is this law
of karma. Logically speaking, if I do something bad
then something bad will happen to me in return and
vice versa. Now we say as a conscious being we can
make the decision to do good and break the bad karma.
But how can this be broken? Logically, it would be
either an ever ending cycle where bad things
continuously happen to us or good things continously
occur. Presently, I am of the opinion that a series of
causally unrelated events occur that eventually lead
us to do either good or bad. Hence we get good and bad
karma.

I must stress that these are my current views. Not
five years ago I was an ardent believer in
Christianity. These days my view of the world could
not be more different. I suspect that in five years
time my opinion will, once again, be completely
different.

Best wishes,
Mic 


--- adelasie <adelasie@surfari.net> wrote:
> Dear Mic,
> 
> I wonder if you would explain a bit the concept of
> synchronicity, as 
> you see it. 
> 
> Thanks,
> Adelasie
> 
> On 4 Feb 02, at 15:35, Mic Forster wrote:
> 
> > 
> > I completely agree with conjev. Some things that
> HPB says science did
> > not agree with in her day science certainly does
> agree with these
> > days - especially in the areas of quantum physics
> and the nature of
> > the atom. Though one area which I think is very
> important, and as yet
> > has hardly (as far as I know) been addressed by
> science or theosophy,
> > is that of synchronicity. This phenomena is so
> widespread and obvious
> > that it can be seen everyday. Yet when I bring it
> up with my fellow
> > scientist they merely scoff at the concept.
> Clearly there is still a
> > lot of learning to be done by all sides - science
> and theosophy.
> 
> 
> 
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