Theos-Talk Archives (December 2001 Message tt00444)

Dear Steve,

Could you, or anyone else, point me to the page references within 
the Alice Bailey works, where I might find the statements that lead 
you to this conclusion: 

"Alice Baley's thesis that inferior races
need to be wiped out so that high church Englishwomen
like hersefl can proliferate is pretty nasty". 

I read most of her works, years ago, but never found anything that 
led me to that conclusion. Perhaps I need to take another look. 
Thanks.

Louis




--- In theos-talk@y..., Steve Stubbs <stevestubbs@y...> wrote:
> When Bart asked who the hatemongers were, he said
> Daniel H. Caldwell (i.e., you), Brigitte, and FRANK. 
> My name was not mentioned. I am not the one who says
> Hitler won the war and gets around in a flying saucer.
> I'm not the one who says Blavatsky wrote the
> Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion and that it is
> all true. This is another example of Daniel's
> diversionary tactics.
> 
> The Pratt article is a piece of pratt. The issue is
> not whether Paul has correctly identified the
> mahatmas, but whether ther were any mahatmas to
> identify. I say there were and he says there were
> not. That Pratt would use stuff like the Vega
> incident as evidence of anything sets the tone for the
> whole thing. It is a lot of pratt from beginning to
> end. He could defend his premise much better with
> sound logic. Bart is right about this kind of pratt
> constituting a pile of shoddy logic. He is being kind
> by referring to it as logic at all.
> 
> As for hatefulness being in the eye of Bart, I would
> submit that Alice Baley's thesis that inferior races
> need to be wiped out so that high church Englishwomen
> like hersefl can proliferate is pretty nasty. She
> would be pretty typical of a lot of modern
> theosophists, in other words, but I don't think it is
> fair from what I have read to think her reasoning bore
> much resemblance to Blavatsky's. Since Bailey was a
> fraud on the face of it, I put her stuff aside long
> ago and paid little attention to it since. Of all the
> neo-theosophical charlatans, she is much more
> substantial than Leadbeater or Steiner but that's not
> saying a lot in her favor. Why are you defending
> Alice Bailey, Daniel?
> 
> I won't suggest yet again that the cant and the rant
> cease and give way to honest discussion. That is a
> vain hope with a crowd of theosophists, it seems. Let
> us just hope that list members are gradually learning
> to see through this sort of thing, and that it becomes
> more and more futile as a tactic. Then maybe we will
> see the end of it by simple attrition.
> 
> --- danielhcaldwell <danielhcaldwell@y...> wrote:
> > Bart wrote:
> > 
> > "They [Brigitte, Steve & Daniel] have piles of
> > shoddy logic, 
> > falsified history, and plain out and out lies to
> > fall back on, and 
> > what they want is for people to argue with them so
> > that they can pull 
> > out their full loads of ammo. And, if somebody does
> > get the better of 
> > them, they simply ignore that person, and start all
> > over again. How 
> > many times have you tried to go against Daniel, when
> > all the 
> > ammunition you [Paul Johnson] have in your arsenal
> > is the truth? And 
> > what good has it done?"
> > 
> > It is not often that I find statements which jump
> > out at me and take 
> > my breath away! Bart's statement above is one of
> > those rare gems.
> > 
> > For those readers who would like to have a different
> > perspective on 
> > Paul's "arsenal of truth," I suggest they read and
> > study the 
> > following essay:
> > 
> > "The Theosophical Mahatmas: A Critique of Paul
> > Johnson's New Myth"
> > by David Pratt.
> > See: 
> >
> http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/dp5/johnson.htm
> > 
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> > 
> 
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