Theos-Talk Archives (December 2001 Message tt00334)

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> From: danielhcaldwell <danielhcaldwell@yahoo.com>
> To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Theos-World What is Bill's Point of View?
> Date: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:00 AM
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> Bill Meredith wrote:
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> "What are you trying to asking, Daniel? Whether Hartmann lied and 
> made up this incident or somehow faked it? What are your own 
> assumptions here?"
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> Bill, I'm trying to simply understand your point on view on this and 
> your "take" on this Hartmann incident.
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> "I said the incident was 'suspect'. What is so difficult to 
> understand about that?"
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> Again I'm trying to understand what you mean by "suspect" and what 
> your reasoning was that lead to the conclusion "suspect".
> 
> "I have seen an elephant appear where only a second before I did not 
> see one. Does my written account of this incident make it true?"
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> So what does this say about your views on the "paranormal"? Do you, 
> for example, accept or reject the "paranormality" of Blavatsky's 
> phenomena?

This doesn't say anything about my views on the "paranormal". What I have
said reflects my views on particular events as I understand them. I might,
for instance, have a complex view of the paranormal that cannot be
ascertained by my statements on one or two so-called paranormal events. 
The thing is Daniel, I am not obliged to leap from a particular incident to
assume a universal truth contained therein, just because you do that
routinely. 

> "Masters are advanced beings. If they smoke and leave autographed 
> photographs of themselves to adoring followers, then they give us 
> insight into just how advanced they are. But, do not miss my point. 
> Masters are advanced beings. People who claim to know Masters by 
> such trivial evidence as letters appearing in drawers with personally 
> dedicated photographs may not be so advanced. But, perhaps they are 
> more advanced than others who declare that Masters exist because they 
> read such trivial accounts from reliable sources."
> 
> Well, you say "Masters are advanced beings." But what kind 
> of "Masters" do you believe in? Koot Hoomi? Morya? Babaji (of 
> Yogananda fame)? A Radhasoami Master? ????

Why Daniel, I believe in Masters that don't smoke and don't use artificial
sweetners. What kind of masters do you believe in?

> You speak of trivial evidence as letters appearing in drawers, etc.
> What about the "trivial" evidence of a KH letter appearing in a 
> pillow at a picnic? See OCCULT WORLD by A.P. Sinnett. Do you 
> believe this was really a letter from a Master...an advanced being or 
> just Mr. Sinnett claiming. . . ? Sinnett received a drawing of the 
> Master KH in 1882 via HPB. Was this no different than Hartmann's 
> case?

If I were to not believe in something Mr. Sinnett claimed, would I have to
also not believe in Masters? HPB says some things I don't believe. Let me
ask you, when HPB claims to have made some mistakes, do you believe her? 
Or was she lying? 

> I'm just trying to understand your assumptions, your point of view 
> and your conclusions on this subject.


Why? Do you wish to change me? Why do you dialogue with others by trying
to hook a question mark through their nose and pull them to your watering
hole?
Steve, Brigitte, Dallas, Paul Johnson, Dr. Tillett, myself, and others have
asked you questions about what you believe. You invariably respond with
diversionary questions instead of answers. That is fine. Peace be with
you. 

Bill




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