Re: Theos-World Re: Why was Hitler alive in 1948 in the USA?
Dec 14, 2001 02:29 PM
by Morten Sufilight
Hi Brigitte, and all of you,
A view by Sufilight:
*This is not to offend you, but I think that this - below answer comming from you - was a very bad answer - filled with prejudice.
When do you want to become a sweet, good and wise being?
To me hatefull replies like this will never create - anyhting good in this world.*
*Sweet people write sweet words.*
You wrote:
<<Morten: "Some peoples wounds are not healed yet"
Based on the constant character assasinations people indulge in on
this list it seems many have pretty strong stomachs (third chakras
in esoteric slang), but if you are indeed Jewish, and a holocoast
surviver, why didn't you say something when the Protocols of the
Elders of Zion where placed on this list ? >>
*I would suggest one follows Blavatsky - when she in section 2 - of "The Key to Theosophy" states about how to relate to books and thoughtsystems: "Wecull the good we find in each." - And she moreover says, that there is exoteric and esoteric theosophy. I can only encourage people on the list to follow that view in a wise manner - as long as it is valid.*
*But you Brigitte, you - to my view - turn this view of Blavatsky's up sidedown - and seems to state the motto - "we cull the BAD we find in each."*
*I will countinously encourage you to follow the view: Do good. Be good. See good. Think good. Act wise. Always help - never hurt. If you can't help, then at least don't hurt!"*
*Critical examinations on texts can be a good thing. But please stop this guillotine hunt of yours. - Don't chop peoples heads of - but seek to open their spiritual non-physical hearts instead. That's what I encourage you to consider."
*I do hope - you understand what I think.*
*I am tired of evilness. I am tired of angry people. I am tired of hearing of and seeing people writing smear. I am tired of seeing people hating eachother. I am tired of backstabbing. I am tired of prejudice. I am tired of egotism. I am tired of greed. I am tired of people getting afraid. - When will the evildoers on this planet ever stop. Please love each-other. Care for each other. What people wrote in the past - can only be verified by the socalled 'true witness' and not by - silly scholars who boasts themselves asbeing - the prime-movers of theosophical history in this small timecycle of the 21. century - on a little planet in a corner of the vast universe."*
*God - ParaBrahman really is ! It is no joke! Please.*
*All the above is ment well - to help you.*
*Just let me know if you ever get trouble.*
*Feel free to comment - all of you.*
from
Sufilight
----- Original Message -----
From: "bri_mue" <bri_mue@yahoo.com>
To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 6:30 PM
Subject: Theos-World Re: Why was Hitler alive in 1948 in the USA?
Morten: "Some peoples wounds are not healed yet"
Based on the constant character assasinations people indulge in on
this list it seems many have pretty strong stomachs (third chakras
in esoteric slang), but if you are indeed Jewish, and a holocoast
surviver, why didn't you say something when the Protocols of the
Elders of Zion where placed on this list ?
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/theos-talk/message/2697
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/theos-talk/message/3280
There are many books that contain dis information , and it often
takes time to track down the genesis and evolution of such
information.
An example of this is the so called "Byrd diary's" wich
where faked by a theosophist (or at least that is what he called
himself) who at least for some time went by the name of Captain
Bernhard (as far a I remember) who later also co-wrote a book about
the "H.Grail"
and how Skorzene helped to remove it from France, and a "black
sun" secret society that was meeting at various places in the world,
and that was in the possesion of the "real" lanz of Longines
that pierced the side of Christ, and so on. (no not the book by
Ravenscroft)
In any case, the point is that Admiral Byrd did indeed exist,
whowever questionable is the mention in there of "the domain of
the Arianni",. and the "Flugelrads" (wingwheels) that were noted in
this secret log of Admiral Richard E. Byrd.
Somewhere along the way there had been added an expedition that no
history book had even mentioned . a 1947 Arctic expedition.
For starters February (the month the expedition is claimed to have
taken place) is the dead of winter in the Arctic with it's well
known 24 hours of darkness and unpredictable flying weather. However,
the biggest negative ruling out a February 1947 Arctic expedition by
Admiral Byrd was the indisputable fact that he was smack dab in the
middle of the command of his life "Operation Highjump,"
The operation made front-page headlines around the world with reports
about the Admirals personal movements broadcast around the world
daily from January 2nd until his return to America on April 14th
1947. This would have made a North Polar flight during this time
impossible.
The first mention of a 1947 North Polar flight by the Admiral can be
found in the book Worlds beyond the Poles: Physical Continuity of the
Universe (1959) by a controversial self-proclaimed scientist, F.
Amadeo Giannini. On page 13 of his book under the heading "The
Changing Scene 1927-1947" he presents a list of things that
happened during those years to support his theory. One of the entries
is;
"1947: February "I'd like to see that land beyond the
pole. The area beyond the pole is the center of the great unknown." -
Rear Admiral Richard E. Byrd before his seven-hour flight over land
beyond the North Pole." .
Not only was this the first time a 1947 flight ever mentioned, but
this also seems to be the origin of this often used quote attributed
to Admiral Byrd and used later in various ways.
The actual source of this quote was probably an article that
appeared in the October 1947 National Geographies Magazine
titled "Our Navy Explores Antarctica," in which The Admiral
refers several times to the "Mystery Land beyond The Pole" although
not in the sequence of words presented by Giannini. And most
importantly of all . Byrd was talking about Antarctica.
Contrary to popular belief, Giannina was not a believer in the Hollow
Earth. Nor is his book, Worlds beyond the Poles, a Hollow Earth book
In 1928 Admiral Byrd published his account of the 1926 North polar
flight in a book titled Skyward. On page 196 Byrd reveals the
following information:
"When our calculations showed us to be about an hour from the
Pole, I noticed through the cabin window a bad leak in the oil tank
of the starboard motor. When I took the wheel again I kept my eyes
glued on the oil leak and the oil pressure indicator."
Compare this information to the following passage from the so-
called "secret diary."
(Page 2) "--- Hours: Slight oil leak in starboard engine, oil
pressure indicator seems normal, however."
Once again, the odds of Admiral Byrd having the exact same problem
with the same engine on two different flights 11 years apart is
verry smal one should say.
And if one next looks at a video copy of the 1937 MGM motion
picture "Lost Horizon," and the scene where the star,Ronald
Coleman has an audience with the Dali Lama in Shangra-La, a lost city
in Tibet. The Master tells him that there "is a dark time
coming" but that:
"You, my son, (said the Master), "will live through the
storm. You will preserve the fragrance of our history and add to it a
touch of your own mind. Beyond that, my vision weakens . but I see in
the great distance a new world starting in the ruins . But in
hopefulness, seeking it's lost and legendary treasures, and they
will all be here, my son, hidden behind the mountains under the blue
moon, preserved as if by a miracle."
Now, according to "The Secret Diary of Admiral Richard E.
Byrd," was a meeting between The Admiral and the "Master" of the
Arianni;
"Yes, my son," replied the Master, "the dark ages that
will come for your race will cover the Earth like a pall, but I
believe that some of your race will live through the storm, beyond
that I cannot say.
We see a great distance a new world stirring from the ruins of your
race, seeking its lost and legendary treasures, and they will be here
my son, safe in our keeping."
One will find the same pattern with other books of this genre.
Brigitte
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