Theos-Talk Archives (December 2001 Message tt00261)

Bill Meredith wrote:

"What are you trying to asking, Daniel? Whether Hartmann lied and 
made up this incident or somehow faked it? What are your own 
assumptions here?"

Bill, I'm trying to simply understand your point on view on this and 
your "take" on this Hartmann incident.

"I said the incident was 'suspect'. What is so difficult to 
understand about that?"

Again I'm trying to understand what you mean by "suspect" and what 
your reasoning was that lead to the conclusion "suspect".

"I have seen an elephant appear where only a second before I did not 
see one. Does my written account of this incident make it true?"

So what does this say about your views on the "paranormal"? Do you, 
for example, accept or reject the "paranormality" of Blavatsky's 
phenomena?

"Masters are advanced beings. If they smoke and leave autographed 
photographs of themselves to adoring followers, then they give us 
insight into just how advanced they are. But, do not miss my point. 
Masters are advanced beings. People who claim to know Masters by 
such trivial evidence as letters appearing in drawers with personally 
dedicated photographs may not be so advanced. But, perhaps they are 
more advanced than others who declare that Masters exist because they 
read such trivial accounts from reliable sources."

Well, you say "Masters are advanced beings." But what kind 
of "Masters" do you believe in? Koot Hoomi? Morya? Babaji (of 
Yogananda fame)? A Radhasoami Master? ????

You speak of trivial evidence as letters appearing in drawers, etc.
What about the "trivial" evidence of a KH letter appearing in a 
pillow at a picnic? See OCCULT WORLD by A.P. Sinnett. Do you 
believe this was really a letter from a Master...an advanced being or 
just Mr. Sinnett claiming. . . ? Sinnett received a drawing of the 
Master KH in 1882 via HPB. Was this no different than Hartmann's 
case?

I'm just trying to understand your assumptions, your point of view 
and your conclusions on this subject.

Daniel H. Caldwell
BLAVATSKY ARCHIVES
http://hpb.cc