Theos-Talk Archives (December 2001 Message tt00112)

I have never heard the story of rain in a room but
there is nothing mysterious about it. I understand it
is possible for there to be rain in large buildings
such as aircraft hangers and warehouses and that such
structures must be designed to prevent this.

--- bri_mue <bri_mue@yahoo.com> wrote:
> In my opinion there is enough scientific evidence
> (see for example 
> Dean I. Radin's work) to prove the existence of
> psychic abilities, 
> (if one takes away the unrealistic glamour that is
> projected into it 
> by some), the Ganzfeld theory, probably some form of
> survival after 
> death, and a few others. But I am indeed interested
> to see Daniel 
> Caldwell show the results of tests done on private
> individuals under 
> modern laboratory conditions where the person in
> question:
> 
> 1)Materializes and de-materializes objects as
> Blavatsky is claimed to 
> have done. 
> 
> 2) Modern laboratory testings where an individual
> has dissapeared and 
> re-appeared at will (without any equipment).
> 
> Wich are some of the occurances Daniel Caldwell
> claims Blavatsly, 
> Morya, and so on where performing, including making
> it rain in a 
> room.
> 
> In Hansen's History of the Theosophical Movement,
> there is a 
> revealing comment by Annie Besant. During the,
> "Judge Affair", she 
> made reference to 'the handwriting adopted by HPB in
> the, "Mahatma 
> Letters" and said Judge had stolen it for his own
> Mahatma letters. 
> Also regarding a statement made by Besant in Lucifer
> after HPB's 
> death, Steve Stubb reports: "When HPB died Judge
> swiped the Chinese 
> stationary she used for the," mahatma letters," and
> started using it 
> for his own mahatma letters. It is required that we
> reject the naive 
> interpretations put on these matters by some
> believers." 
> 
> Damodar could have been helpful as a source drawn on
> by HPB for his 
> inside knowledge of Indian religion, as were Subba
> Row and Mohini. 
> The volume of the letters does not require a large
> network of fellow 
> conspirators, or a small one, or in fact any at all.
> Given what we 
> know of HPB's ability to produce a large volume of
> writing in a short 
> time, composing the Mahatma letters in the time
> period in which they 
> appeared is quite within her abilities. The
> circumstances of the 
> letters' delivery would, in a few cases, require
> some conspirators. 
> Among those suggested by other writers have been
> Damodar and the 
> servant Babula; in the case of the Coulombs two
> witnesses confessed 
> to having been part of a conspiracy. 
> 
> 
> Already Daniel Douglas Home accused Blavatsky of
> fraud when she 
> claimed to recognise during the seances in
> Clittenden a silver buckle 
> supposedly buried with her father in Russia and
> materialised in 
> Vermont for the occasion. Careful for his own
> credibility, Home based 
> his charge not on the impossibility of materialising
> objects over 
> distance, but on the assertion that the Russians do
> not burry 
> decorations with their dead, adding that Blavatsky
> had also tried the 
> same trick in Paris in 1858.
> 
> Particular revealing is that the spiritualistic type
> phenomena later 
> attributed to Morya and K.H. already where touted
> early on with 
> Hurrychund Chintamon as the producer claimed by
> Blavatsky. 
> Chintamon, "revealed as a thief, and who later told
> C. Massey that he 
> had never been even a chela and had no occult powers
> whatsoever. 
> Blavatsky in January 1879, on her way to India,
> caused a china pot to 
> be produced in Massey's presence, and topped that
> wonder by causing a 
> small Indian card case to appear in his overcoat
> pocket with a slip 
> of paper inside bearing Chintamon's signature-proof
> of the origin of 
> the phenomenon." (John Deveney Astral Projection or
> Liberating of the 
> Double and the Work of the Early Theosophical
> Society, pp 62-63.) 
> 
> 
> Brigitte
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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