Theos-Talk Archives (October 2001 Message tt00218)

I have told you in the past that I am not communicating with people who
don't reveal their real names, for one, second, I cannot say that I am too
entusiastic from the *aura* of your posts, which is of course your personal
issue, and I am just a guest here. I don't mind expressing my views at
length, it is that often I feel waves of cynicism from your side, correct me
if I am wrong. I commented over that issue of wrong use of esoteric
experiences, because I at least care for my fellow participants here.
Meddling with the occult phenomena, unless under the guidance of a Perfect
Master, will render suffering and delay and will inflict on the person
involved untold births and deaths unnecessary for the progression of the
drop soul - atma. And if you don't know what is *this*, go and make your
homework. The true Masters don't permit their disciples to get involved with
these things. I can give you a long list of true Masters along the
centuries, even a few ones from 19-20 century, but better off find out for
yourself. All best wishes, Etzion
----- Original Message -----
From: nos <nos@granite.net.au>
To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2001 7:38 AM
Subject: RE: Theos-World A Great Astral Projection Method


> What do you mean by God's Will? Why won't you elucidate? I'm not being
> hostile.
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> Nos
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>
> |-----Original Message-----
> |From: Etzion Becker [mailto:etvionbb@netvision.net.il]
> |Sent: Tuesday, 16 October 2001 2:54 PM
> |To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> |Subject: Re: Theos-World A Great Astral Projection Method
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> |I have only best wishes for you, Mr nos. Etzion
> |----- Original Message -----
> |From: nos <nos@granite.net.au>
> |To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
> |Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2001 7:27 AM
> |Subject: RE: Theos-World A Great Astral Projection Method
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> |> 2 points to consider here:
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> |> 'real Master' - is there such a thing?
> |>
> |> 'God's will' - once again I ask - what the hell?
> |>
> |>
> |> Namaste
> |>
> |> Nos
> |>
> |>
> |>
> |> |-----Original Message-----
> |> |From: Etzion Becker [mailto:etvionbb@netvision.net.il]
> |> |Sent: Tuesday, 16 October 2001 2:30 PM
> |> |To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> |> |Subject: Re: Theos-World A Great Astral Projection Method
> |> |
> |> |
> |> |Getting involved with *super natural* phenomena is dangerously
> |> |indeed. No real Master permits his disciples to indulge in these
> |> |methods, which are no more but a side track from the
> |spiritual path,
> |> |and actually no more but vain trinkets in comparison to
> |Reality. The
> |> |real Master prescribe the path of service, sacrifice, love and
> |> |surrenderance to God's will. Etzion
> |> |----- Original Message -----
> |> |From: Monica Suzuki <agnimuse@aol.com>
> |> |To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
> |> |Sent: Monday, October 15, 2001 11:29 PM
> |> |Subject: Re: Theos-World A Great Astral Projection Method
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> |> |
> |> |> A few people extol the value of this mediumistic method.
> |However,
> |> |> I would like to add some words of caution.
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> |> |> To experience higher levels of consciousness, the soul must
> |> |> dissolve the present conditions within his physical,
> |emotional, and
> |> |> mental bodies in which he finds himself trapped - traps such as
> |> |> hatred, prejudice, anger, jealousy, vanity, ego, selfishness, and
> |> |> self- centeredness; traps of maya, glamor, and illusion.
> |Access to
> |> |> these levels depends on the vibratory rate of the individual's
> |> |> lower vehicles as to which ones he can enter. Those whose
> |> |vehicles are not
> |> |> prepared to enter higher levels of consciousness (which the seven
> |> |> planes represent) will not vibrate with the right frequency and
> |> |> therefore, their vehicles will suffer heavy damage or even
> |> |destruction
> |> |> such as death. Some people have been known to die in their
> |> |sleep and
> |> |> in some cases, the cause of death remains unknown.
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> |> |> I wrote a poem which describes the inherent dangers of soul
> |> |flight or
> |> |> as some call it, astral projection. There is a difference
> |> |between the
> |> |> two methods, one of which does not involve the rending of
> |> |the etheric
> |> |> garment.
> |> |>
> |> |> The Doomed Flight Of Icarus
> |> |> by Monica Suzuki
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> |> |> The day arrives to escape to the azure sky;
> |> |> Daedalus warns his son of potential doom;
> |> |> Icarus looks his father in the eye;
> |> |> He thinks the old man is full of gloom.
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> |> |> The foolish lad spreads his waxen wings to fly
> |> |> Giddy with the freedom of exhilaration.
> |> |> As he soars higher and higher into the sky,
> |> |> Fragile wings melt as he draws nearer to the sun.
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> |> |> The father looks around for his son;
> |> |> Icarus plunges helplessly into the sea;
> |> |> Horrified and powerless to save his poor son,
> |> |> Daedalus cries out in tortured agony.
> |> |>
> |> |> Youthful pride caused the son's demise;
> |> |> Forget not the sad fate of Icarus' flight;
> |> |> Humility is truly the cornerstone of the wise,
> |> |> As one grows upward in wisdom's light.
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