Theos-Talk Archives (October 2001 Message tt00097)

It is a useless efforts, digging within the bottomless dark pit of human
existence, trying to figure things out. We cannot. In order to figure out
why and what, you'll need to combine all the experiences of the entire
humans who were born since the beginnin of time, plus all the creatures etc,
feed it to an infinitely powerful computer, and this (maybe), will tell you
why this episode in *human history* happened. It will show you the karmic
link from one episode to another.
I think we, who aspire to walk on the spiritual path, are dedicated for
bringing light, and not pondering over darkness. I simply haven't seen you
bringing any trickle of light to this list, so why don't you engage in this
wholesome art? Love, Etzion
----- Original Message -----
From: nos <nos@granite.net.au>
To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2001 7:58 AM
Subject: RE: Theos-World RE: RE:Music..


> I'm not poking fun - trust me. Just curious to get details - coz all I
> was ever taught in school and the media was the IMAGE - the gloss - the
> surface. I want to get down to the gritty details of human existence. I
> think it's better to talk about it - no matter how distasteful it may
> seem - than it is to not talk about.
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> I think for me personally I was brought up thinking the Holocaust of
> WWII was the greatest atrocity ever committed in human history. Now I'm
> older and a lot wiser and I know it doesn't even compare to some other
> horrendous acts of barabarity by man against man in the name of flags,
> holy symbols, money , land resources, pride etc etc
>
> Black Magic is hypnotism on a grand scale - it uses powerful symbols to
> create pavlovian reactions.
>
> The more one learns about WWII and the holocaust the more realises it
> was Black Magic on a grand scale. Grander than anything Hitler planned -
> He wa a pawn. There is so much documented evidence - ALL SUPPRESSED of
> course - ....
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> Wagner Symphonies sound an awful lot like black magic. And I know there
> is a division within the people that collectively call themselves jews
> and that one of the groups does things they think are best for their
> entire people whether the entire people like it or not. Holocaust
> literally means burnt offering.
>
> If I wanted back my supposed homeland I would first garner worldwide
> sympathy through a massive act of evil (not unlike WTC911 hey?) A
> United Nations would need to be formed first of course....When was that
> done?
>
> As to having to undergo it myself b4 refusing the order - what utter
> nonsense. I would refuse the order to play and I would die with my
> brothers and sisters - I would then pass through the bardo states -
> re-incarnate and come back and offer still more compassion. Simple as
> that.
>
> Anyone that did otherwise could not possibly call themselves a human.
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> Peace Unto thee verily
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> NOT OBJECT SUBJECT!
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Etzion Becker [mailto:etvionbb@netvision.net.il]
> Sent: Saturday, 6 October 2001 3:02 PM
> To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: Theos-World RE: RE:Music..
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> *Nos* I sometimes don't know if you are poking fun, or really
> don't know what is what. They didn'y play songs, there were
> symphonies, whatever the form of music was. You presumably will
> have to undergo such a thing, then you won't ask if those folks
> could even think to refuse such an order. It
> has been too cozy for you :-) Etzion
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: nos <nos@granite.net.au>
> To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2001 4:47 AM
> Subject: RE: Theos-World RE: RE:Music..
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> > It's a bit ludicrous to ban music coz of it's psycho-somatic
> > properties.
> >
> >
> > But to clarify:
> >
> > They played this song EVERYTIME they went into gas chambers?
> (BTW, Was
> > it Ride of the Valkyries - that's the only one I know - from
> > Apocalypse
> > Now)
> > No Other Songs were ever played?
> > Jews played the music?
> > Did they chose to or were they forced to?
> > Why didn't they refuse not to and join in solidarity?
> >
> > When there's no holocaust survivors left to be disturbed will
> the song
> > be allowed again?
> >
> > Cfud
> >
> > Nearly optimistic (slightly)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Etzion Becker [mailto:etvionbb@netvision.net.il]
> > Sent: Saturday, 6 October 2001 4:31 AM
> > To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: Theos-World RE: RE:Music..
> >
> >
> > It so happened that when the Nazis herded the Jews into the gas
> > chambers, a band of musicians, Jews, were playing Wagner's music. And
> > since that holocaust survivors still live in Israel, these sounds
> > trigger back their terrible memories, so this music is publicly
> > banned, but you can hear it on private occasions. Etzion
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <DNisk98114@aol.com>
> > To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 6:19 PM
> > Subject: Theos-World RE: RE:Music..
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> > > Message: 9
> > > Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 19:57:36 +0930
> > > From: "nos" <nos@granite.net.au>
> > > Subject: RE: RE:Music..
> > >
> > > What's the deal with Wagner's music and 'jewish factions' ?
> > > Forgiver my ignorance but all I know of his work is that Tolkien
> > > based Lord of the Rings around elements of his Ring Cycle?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > > Nos
> > > 666666666666666666666
> > > They won't allow his music to be played in Israel.
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