Theos-Talk Archives (September 2001 Message tt00170)

September 18, 2001


Dear Mic:

There is no question but the doctrines and practical applications
ought to be fart above the current political and angry rhetoric.

If one takes the fact of individual immortality into account,
then there is no need for angry words today, But surprise, and
sorrow for those who do not understand the value of the doctrines
of Karma and Reincarnation. Further, there is a real need of
words that show an understanding of the errors made (by us and
others) and continued in the "here and now."

One of the interesting reviews of the cataclysmic effect on
others has been the accounts of providential escapes, in time
space, and location -- also the valiant attempts of various
people to assist and be of service to others who were
disoriented, wounded or crippled.

If we get back to the study of Theosophy and look for practical
uses, we will be doing what is expected of us.

As an example Let us suppose that the 1500 year average time
spent between rebirths is correct, then here in this personality
we have no idea what historical nationality or culture we used.
Also looking forward -- we have no idea where our Karma will
place us in that distant era to come.

In any case we won't be "somebody else." We will be OURSELVES,
as spiritual, conscious beings using a personality of the race
and working out our Karma which includes the choices we make in
the present. So the urge to become wise is a very real one under
those circumstances.

Best wishes,

Dallas

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-----Original Message-----
From: Mic Forster [mailto:micforster@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 8:23 PM
To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: Theos-World US Karma

They've lost the reason why we are on this list in the
first place. Whatever one's beliefs, are we not taught
to be tolerant? Are we not taught to listen to others,
think about what they say then accept or reject their
thoughts? Are we not taught that at the end of the day
the universal law of karma will eventually do justice?

I do not mean to be disrespectful to the Americans on
this list, but I read in the papers and hear on the TV
how Bush is not going to rest until the terrorist are
brought to justice. The administration claims that
they will fight dirty in order that the terrorists are
brought to justice. Why would America fight at all?
After WW2 America lent billions of dollars to Europe
to fix their economies so that another war would be
prevented. Why can't America fix the economies of the
Middle East to prevent more wars there? Isn't it more
worthwhile to build a city rather than destroy one?
Isn't the American Government being terrorists
themselves when they say they will eradicate terror?
It is terror fighting terror. How are all the Muslims
in the world feeling right now? They're terrified. I'm
terrified that America is going to get some other
country angry and I'm terrified that a really big war
is imminent. But please do not take this the wrong
way, it is not just America promoting the terror it is
all the Western World. The Australian Government has
implemented the ANZUS treaty and, apparently, one of
our naval ships have been mobilized in the Gulf.
Shortly, our taxes are going up to pay for this so
called eradication of terrorism. Why should I have to
pay for the killing of other human beings? Why can't I
pay to help other humans?

I've just had another thought. Most of the people on
this list would claim themselves to be quite
intelligent. With so much intelligence in the world
why are we being dictated by idiots?

All the above is written out of frustration, not
anger. If any one has taken offence I apologise.

mic


--- pauljo@cstone.net wrote:
> --- In theos-talk@y..., Michael Chavis <eazi7@e...>
> wrote:
> > on 9/15/01 8:43 PM, Mic Forster at micforster@y...
> wrote:
> >
> > > Dear Frank and Bart,
> > >
> > > You've both lost it.
> > >
> > > Mic
> > >
> Lost what? One believes a bizarre farrago of
> anti-Semitic, anti-
> Masonic conspiracy theories and regularly launches
> vicious personal
> attacks. The other is calling a spade a spade. Do
> you see moral
> equivalency between these two simply because one is
> "mad" meaning
> angry and the other is "mad" meaning insane?
>
> Please stop picking on Bart and ignoring what
> monsters he's dealing
> with. Looks like complicity in the racist bull
> flying around here.
>
> PJ
>
>
>
>
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>
>


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