Theos-Talk Archives (August 2001 Message tt00009)

Eldon, I agree with Sherab. Also from me much thanks, not only for your
recent
good article, but for all the much time you've spent to create the first
online magazine "Theosophy World" with electronical reprints of valuable,
but today rare to find articles. A great task!

Sherab, yes of course there is a lineage. The Masters work uninterruptly in
the outer world of men, either silent or not silent. Also there is a
Guruparampara, that is a serial line of teachers, torchbearers, coming one
after another, and at special times together. The outer-world guruparampara,
the Hermetic chain, in the modern theosophical movement, which was scheduled
as the modern exoteric Mystery school by its founders, was unbroken from
1875 to 1942. This guruparampara is built by persons which by other means
are
also called "messengers". This technical term means that there comes one
with a message of the lodge, which he delivers (only) to those who are
ready.

That is no master race ideology as twisted thinking of foes or misinformed
students may have it, as those who are ready are become not selected by
third ones, they make themselve ready, from within. A weak mind or a
neurotic
cannot understand it as likewise a dog cannot understand mathematics, so
this people come to the wrong conclusion that there is someone outside of
them who is responsibly for that" injustice. The known psychologist Paul
Watzlawick has many funny examples for that twisted thinking. The four
messengers who built the holy chain in the outer world were: 1. HPB 2. Judge
3. Katherine Tingley 4. Gottfried de Purucker. All messengers taught their
pupils: "Keep the link unbroken".

There are inner and out rounds for messengers. There are messengers who
built a whole platonic year. There are messengers who built an age of 2,160
years. This messenger is also called World teacher. The World teacher, the
Avatara, for our new age was HPB, as with her birth began a new age
(Aquarius).

Would have this secret esoteric teaching been known to the
students of HPB, there would have been no place for some misleading and
selfish students to make propaganda for their kind of world teacher and
place themselves on the sunny side as his "Herolds".

There are many ways how messengers work. Not all messengers are allowed to
make public statements about their occult status (so with Judge), only the
closiest pupils are informed (in the case of Judge he transformed at an ES
Convention to his real, asiatic body). Purucker as one of the highest Adepts
which ever entered the Western hemisphere was one of the messengers who were
able to speak openly about their status. P. was a high Tibetan Adept. In the
1930's there were, according to Purucker, actually five messengers from the
Lodge working, but they were not generally known to non-initiates. To my
understanding the then General Secretary of the British Section and compiler
of the Mahatma letters, Mr Trevor Barker, and Boris de Zirkoff, who together
with Katherine Tingley and Gottfried de Purucker launched special work to
save HPB's work and collect all what was reachable world wide for the
benefit of later generations of serious students to come for the next
centuries, these two chelas were in close connection with the
chaldeo-aryan-tibetan Lodge of the transhimalayan Brotherhood.

An example of outer rounds for messengers would be the messenger who is said
to work in every last decade of a century. This rounds were made public
during the lifetime of the first two messengers. Under Purucker the teaching
was a little more unveiled and today we know (if we allow) that there are
many messengers of many degrees. All are working uninterrupted for the
uplifting of humanity, whether John Algeo believes it or not (he seems to
think that the Lodge sends only messengers at certain times, but that are
only exoteric dead letter speculations and is no knowledge about real
esoteric facts).

Please consider that this are the views of the Point Loma school and that
not all lineages in the broad theosophical movement accept this. Many, those
who follow the little, or damaged, vehicle, and who judge only from exoteric
or dead letter knowledge but not from the higher knowledge taught in the
esoteric degrees by the messengers, may even not admit, that higher degrees
existed or that there exists anything like the office of a "messenger". But
nevertheless, this are the esoteric facts and can be found in the esoteric
books of this messengers.

A good source is f.e. the twelve vol. set "Esoteric Teachings" by G. de
Purucker, available from Point Loma Publications
http://www.wisdomtraditions.com/
Frank


----- Original Message -----
From: <sherab@telocity.com>
To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 9:55 PM
Subject: Theos-World Passing On Theosophy - Eldon B. Tucker


This posting is to thank Eldon B. Tucker for the very fine and
inspiring article in Theosophy World about "Passing On Theosophy".

Truly spoken from the heart, this is the spirit of Theosophy, the
path of compassion.

To me, a lurker here now and again, there seems much energy wasted in
vituperant discord. While numerous inquirers seem to come and go the
same few names still seem to dominate the postings.

Are their any nameable incarnations who are considered teaching
Masters who are self acknowledged Theosophists? Would not a living
tradition acknowledge such a lineage?

Curiously wondering,
in gratituted for what I have learned from the Theosophists.

Sherab
May all benefit