Theos-Talk Archives (July 2001 Message tt00256)

>And take it a little further. Let it study another book about
>Theosophy, by a Soviet Style "Non-Person", who actually worked with
>HPB, and HSO, and Annie Besant. What if they decided to study C. W.
>Leadbeater's OUTLINE OF THEOSOPHY (1915), currently available from a
>non-Theosophical publisher?
>
>Will that be OK with the parent body?

Dennis, Dallas, Leon, Daniel: Another question:
If I would like to start a Tingley-loyality Lodge, would the ULT parent body
charter it?
It it frequently said that the ULT from its declaration cares not about
quarrels of theosophical figures (except perhaps to make Robert Crosbie seen
in good light). So this could be a good test. If ULT does not allow a Lodge
loyal to KT then I doubt that the claims are true that the ULT has no
hierarchy, no one who decides and no one who suppresses anything in
comparison to the Point Loma model which is frequently defamed as
dictatorship.

That all leads to the question what freedom really is. I had some talks in
the last months wiht some East Germany, born and raised under the
Communists. They tell me how unsatisfied they are now as the old system was
far better and gave more freedom. They had security. They knew that the
state would give them a save job after education, they knew they would have
a kindergarten place etc. etc. and today there is always fight for
everything. So the Socialism is real freedom for them.

Also I spoke with right winged/neo-nazi persons who told me that during the
12 years under Hitler there was really freedom as they could speak out aloud
the truth about the Jews and no one was persecuted therefor. Today one is
jailed if one criticises Jewish policy in Israel or in Germany. Hitler took
away 6millions unemployed hungry people, gave them a job and bread. He
forced the radio, the volkswagen car and other high technology to make his
people number 1. For those it was Hitler who gave freedom.

So it seems not so easy to understand anyone when he/she says what freedom
is. Seems there are many views. Regarding the discourse about the ULT as a
good model for Theosophists the question arises what does the ULT in its
declaration and in real life mean by freedom and independent study.
Frank