Theos-Talk Archives (May 2001 Message tt00168)

Peter, That's a good summary of the position. It does accord with what 
Blavatsky has written. The only place I would correct you is where you 
say the failures become the most advanced of the next planetary chain they 
find themselves in. It would depend on where they joined in the cycle of 
development. 

Another way of saying what you said - A child at college naturally moves 
up from year to year under the natural impulse of just growing older. This 
isn't enough on its own for her to graduate - if she thinks so she's in 
for a big shock. She has to make the effort at each stage. If not, she 
may have to resit the year.
Phil









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At Tue, 22 May 2001 12:57:49 +0100, "Peter Merriott" <nous@btinternet.com> 
wrote:

>
>Jerry,
>
>Thanks for mentioning de Purucker. I agree with you that he is well 
>worth
>reading. My favorite of his is "Fountain Source of Occultism."
>
>Yes, as a general statement he echoes what is said in the Secret Doctrine
>etc, that the Monadic Life wave travels through the rounds globes and 
>races.
>But I think you need to be careful not to take this too literally. 
>Just
>because there is a description of the lifewave of Monads travelling 
>around
>the seven globes, that does not mean that every unit (individual Monad)
>which starts out on the journey completes it that time around. If this 
>were
>the case we would not find the Mahatma KH writing about the "survival 
>of the
>fittest.... laggard egos,... perish by the millions." Nor would we 
>find a
>reference in the SD to "failures" among the classes of Dhyan Chohans,
> who,
>as high and spiritually progressed as they were, did not properly complete
>their evolutionary development.
>
>The "failures" get 'thrown back' by Karma to another planetary cycle 
>of
>development where they have to make the required evolutionary effort 
>to
>progress to the end of this new cycle ie by completing what they did 
>not
>complete in the previous cycle & so on. They will have an advantage,
> having
>already taken the curriculum (or part of it) before, so to speak. Because
>of this they will be among the most advanced of the new planetary cycle.
>
>...Peter
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Gerald Schueler [mailto:gschueler@earthlink.net]
>> Sent: 19 May 2001 01:36
>> To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: Theos-World Effort & Evolution
>>
>>
>> Some food for thought:
>>
>> G de Purucker, STUDIES IN OCCULT PHILOSOPHY (one of my favorite books) 
>has
>> much to say about some of the topics I have been discussing. I recognize
>> that some list-members are not familiar with de Purucker, but he is 
>well
>> worth reading.
>>
>> On page 9 he lists the yugas and their length in years.
>>
>> On page 81 he has an extremely interesting article titled "There is 
>no
>> eternally unchanging principle in man" in which he notes that even 
>atma is
>> changing and growing.
>>
>> On page 161 he notes that the lifetime of our manvantara is 4,320,
>000,000
>> years.
>>
>> Somewhere (can't recall where right now) he mentions that there
>> is a rule of
>> thumb to the effect that the average person spends 100 years in
>> devachan for
>> each year lived, and that the average life on Earth was about 15 years 
>so
>> that the average devachan was 1,500 years.
>>
>> Thus we can, on the average, expect to undergo
>> 4,320,000,000/1,515=(about)2,851,000 lifetimes during this manvantara.
>>
>> On page 198 he says that at the end of the 7th Round "as then having
>> completed the evolutionary course for this planetary chain, will
>> leave this
>> planetary chain as Dhyan-Chohans" etc, etc.
>>
>> So, we can reasonably expect that the evolutionary force of kundalini 
>will
>> carry us up to Dhyan-Chohans after almost 3 million lifetimes
>> with little or
>> no effort expended other than normal evolutionary development vis-
>a-vis
>> learning lessons via our incarnations. If we want to shorten this
>> apparently
>> long time period, we can expend energy through meditation and compassion,
>> but he never (and neither does Blavatsky) says that we have to.
>>
>> Jerry S.
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