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RE: [bn-study] Re: Is Devachan necessary for all?

Apr 27, 2001 05:06 PM
by dalval14


Friday, April 27, 2001

Dear Friends:

H.P.B.'s KEY TO THEOSOPHY explains this clearly --
This is a summary



Both H.P.B. in the KEY and W.Q.J. in the OCEAN state that after
the body dies all the memories of the just lived life's
experience find themselves in KAMA-LOKA.


The next step is (in Kama-loka) under the "eye" of the ATMA the
memories (Manasic) are divided, and separated so to say, into the
"good, noble, altruistic and spiritual," and the "bad, selfish,
vicious, and evil." In other words, the skandhas are divided
into two classes -- 1. those that remain in Kama-loka and form
the "astral corpse" of the "Second death;" and 2. those which
because of their spiritual nature are carried off to Devachan.

The skandhas of a lower nature, imbued with the selfishness and
viciousness of Kama, form the "astral corpse" after being
abandoned there by the Spiritual Individual
( Atma-Buddhi-Manas) -- They form the astral corpse and it fades
away, the skandhas being diffused into the other, lower kingdoms.
(They form the basis for our future karma upon rebirth, or
reincarnation.) You will find this in great detain in both KEY
and OCEAN. This is only a very brief summary of the usual
process.

After this is done in Kama-loka, and the Higher Manas, Buddhi and
Atma retire into the Devachanic state, the process of meditation
which impacts them into the character and permanent nature of the
Higher Ego begins there.

At the conclusion of the process the cycles that cause
reincarnation bring both the Higher Ago and the necessary lower
Skandhas back into a connection that results in reincarnation.

Best wishes,

Dallas

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-----Original Message-----
From: Compiler [mailto:compiler@wisdomworld.org]
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 10:07 AM
To: study@blavatsky.net
Subject: [bn-study] Re: Is Devachan necessary for all?

Dear estela,

I may be wrong myself, and I hope others more knowledgeable will
corrct me if I
am, but I think, unless I misunderstood something of what you
said, that you got
the sequence somewhat wrong when you say that we go into
"Devachan" [AFTER] "a
time when the Higher Self absorbs the spiritual essence of the
life just lived". I
think the Teaching tells us that it is [DURING] this pleasant
Devachanic dream (or
Heaven), which sequentially comes after the period of our first
unpleasant dream
(or after-death Hell, so to say) wears off, which is made up of
our worst lower
thoughts, desires, aspirations, and actions, that our Higher, or
eternal Buddhic
nature, is naturally (in our devachanic dream) absorbing more and
more of the
"spiritual essence" of our highest thoughts, aspirations,
desires, and actions
from the last life lived, becoming imperishably impacted in us,
so that we
naturally "can return better prepared and better informed".

John DeSantis
(Compiler)
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estela piscope wrote:

> Dear Folks,
>
> Theosophy teaches that once the individuality has passed
gestation period, a
> time when the Higher Self absorbs the spiritual essence of the
life just
> lived, it goes to a long rest called Devachan. Devachan is that
state where
> the Ego finds intself in a very vivid, albeit subjective dream
world, where
> all that it had hoped for or wished for while alive, unfolds as
a perfect life.
>
> Personally, when I got to this part of the teachings, I was a
little
> dismayed, as I am not interested in nor attracted to a period
of "reward,"
> spending time dreaming an illusionary life. Can an
individuality continue to
> learn lessons in Devachan, so that it can return better
prepared and better
> informed to material manifestation that is called this
reality -life?
>
> Respectfully,
> Estela
>
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