RE: Theos-World HPB == Who Are Her devotees? And: WHY?
Feb 26, 2001 05:12 PM
by dalval14
Monday, February 26, 2001
Dear Frank:
I have always found it rather dangerous to lump many people into
a category. Regardless of organization, individuals will make up
their own minds by themselves.
Categories, societies, associations, etc.. are usually
characterized in broad but definite terms, and for purpose of
convenience, and saving time, individuals may be mentally stuffed
into appropriate groups. But this tells no one what and how they
actually are. In a way it is a time-saver, but it is also very
carelessly inaccurate, as, individuals will always be themselves,
regardless of the company they keep. So to place an individual
in some prejudged class is usually inaccurate. Everyone is an
exception, and most particularly, am I.
It is quite true that following H.P.B.'s departure (from this
plane of life -- as nothing prevents her acting as a
NIRMANAKAYA -- my surmise and guess), a number of HER STUDENTS
have offered for consideration their opinions and views of what
she wrote on THEOSOPHY. Of course I do that too, but have no
desire for any kind of following whatsoever. I try to stand
independently for THEOSOPHY, and so I point as often as possible
to HPB and the MASTERS and what they wrote.
As far as I am able to determine, She was the one who (according
to MAHATMA LETTERS) agreed to work in the world for the Great
ancient Lodge of Adepts so as to provide us (the world) with a
knowledge of the HISTORY of the DISCOVERIES that this Lodge had
made (see S.D. I 272-3) in regard to some very important rules,
laws and facts concerning our world, its evolution and of
ourselves as the most responsible beings on it --insofar as the
development of the independent mind-faculty is concerned. We are
evolved to the stage of thinkers.
Our further progress seems to be along that line, and we are
independent in that regard. We teach ourselves because the same
faculties reside in us as in all humans. We have the capacity of
deciding what we will learn, and how fast we will learn, and from
whom we will learn. No one has either right or need to
characterize any one of us for what they perceive as a right or
wrong choice. Have they?
The only way that I know of determining if a student of H.P.B. is
able to express Theosophy or assist others is by comparing what
the (I, we) write with the original.
If anyone claims to know the TRUTH, then there is no objection if
others take what is said and compare it in all possible ways, and
with H.P.B.'s writings, or with anyone else's writings or words.
I think THEOSOPHY is way above any group or the views of any one
student. But still it takes a student many years sometime to
actually prove to himself the validity of a statement concerning
LAW in NATURE. Theosophy covers COSMOGENESIS and
ANTHROPOGENESIS. Both are enormous subjects and all aspects of
Science, Religion and Philosophy are made by H.P.B. and the
Masters to yield secrets hitherto obscured or invisible to us.
We have a lot of study to do before this incarnation ends if we
would truly profit from H.P.B.'s sacrifice.
I think I am right in holding up the flag for H.P.B. -- but I do
not try to say anyone is right or wrong. I say, always: FIND
OUT FOR YOURSELF. But, if you wish to find out what ORIGINAL
THEOSOPHY has to say, then go to H.P.B. What could be fairer ?
If you happen to prefer and honor some other line, then more
power to you. Do so, and find out where it leads. But also be
fair to others and let them follow their own self-chosen lines of
research. We can all help each other in this way, by comparing
notes together, and not be characterizing one another.
Choose to compare any writings by anyone with those of H.P.B. You
have the freedom, as I have and the time to find out. I choose
to be free of any particular group or designation, as an
INDEPENDENT DEVOTEE of THEOSOPHICAL expressions, and I choose to
use H.P.B. as a basis for my study. What's wrong with that?
Everyone should honor a sincere attempt by any student of
H.P.B.'s to try and put THEOSOPHY forward for others to work on
and discover for themselves.
And on the other hand no one ought to either adopt some group;
designation, or allow others to designate him/her as a
member/associate of any society, group, association or what-not.
It is important (I say) to be self-reliant and honor others who
have that honest independence and fearless ability to choose and
then follow their choices. If that is done, then sectarian and
factional differences vanish. Every tradition that has descended
to us merits study, if this is done systematically and carefully
then, the best presentations can be used. And, everyone is free
to use them --- no restrictions, no characterizations, no
prejudices.
That's as I see the matter.
Best wishes,
Dallas
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-----Original Message-----
From: Frank Reitemeyer [mailto:ringding@blinx.de]
Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2001 1:27 PM
To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: Theos-World Kundalini Siddhis and HPB
>HEART DOCTRINE by the words used or the time factor. Is what is
>said in line with the ORIGINAL TEACHINGS?
Dallas, that argument cannot be true as for example Katherine
Tingley or
Gottfried de Purucker taught in line with HPB and nevertheless
the
dogmatic ULT does not consider them.
Many learned students came to the conclusion that KT and GdeP
derived their information from the very source as HPB did.
Without the hard work of Mrs Tingley and her offense containment
policy
the Original Theosophy would have been died before 1900.
Furthermore without KT we today would not have the Blavatsky
Collected Writings, the Mahatma Letters and Puruckers valuable
commentaries on HPBs major works, etc. etc.
Frank
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