Theos-Talk Archives (February 2001 Message tt00138)

Yes. And he ran around with Aldous Huxley and Charlie Chaplin and others
who learned to express in contemporary and literate ways. So important. I
love that aspect. I love how modern art, modern dance, modern literature
have been so wonderfully seeded with the ideas of the True Theosophy of one
perfected and expressively evolving humanity. I even plan to read James
Joyce!

And especially, to study the life and thought of K. He's the major link to
so much: physics, liturature, etc. Ah, yes! The proper use of
Contemporary Language. Light!


Gene


----- Original Message -----
From: "M K Ramadoss" <ramadoss@infohwy.com>
To: <theos-l@list.vnet.net>; <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 6:11 AM
Subject: Theos-World Shri Krishna & Krishnaji


> Here is an excerpt from an interesting post from listening-l.
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> Som: Krishnamurti used a different metaphor to convey some of
> the ideas that the Hindu sages had put forward. I consider him to
> be one of the Rishis, who talked a more modern language.
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> Devotion that Krishna demands of Arjun is not blind devotion. The
> Bhagwad Gita is a dialog between two friends and not a treatise on
> do's and don'ts.
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> Arjun has many questions and doubts that Krishna answers in a
> friendly manner. He takes Arjun through a journey of self-discovery.
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> And then Arjun sees the Cosmic Form of the Lord, and surrenders
> to that Cosmic Form.
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> Krishnamurti does the same thing: he takes his listeners through a
> friendly journey of exploration and encourages them to ask
> questions and raise doubts.
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> Through a journey of self discovery, a person may seee the Truth
> and then surrender to that Truth.
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> It is interesting that when Arjun sees the Cosmic Form of the Lord,
> he sees neither a beginning nor an end, and all times, the past, the
> present, and the future are contined in that Cosmic Form, as are all
> life forms and everything else. Arjun fails to describe the Cosmic
> Form in words and merely bows to it.
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> The Truth that Krishnamurti is talking about is similar: it cannot be
> captured in words. I wonder if you have read K's journal and the
> notebook. His description of the "otherness", "benediction" etc. is
> an attempt to describe what the author(s) of the Bhagwad Gita
> have tried capturing in the metaphor of their time.
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> Krishnamurti takes his audience to "that which is beyond thought";
> Krishna urges Arjun to look at that which is beyond death.
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> That which is beyond thought (K) is the same as that which is
> beyond death (Lord Krishna).
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> I think there are interesting parallels between the message of the
> Gita and the message of K.
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> But K was aware of this tendency in people to merely repeat
> religious scriptures without thinking about their significance and
> consequently did not make any direct references to scriptures.
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> But for all practical purposes, he was a Rishi (a Sage), who spoke
> a more contemporary language.
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> Makes sense? At least some what?
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