Theos-Talk Archives (January 2001 Message tt00014)

Dear Eugene

 

You write

<<<on the intimate relationships between these sets.>>>

 

Although not understanding all you have written,

<<<between>>> would appear to be the operative "word."

 

Between 1 and 2 and between 2 and 3, the "and".

 

Your mail ends with the ten "dots," but does the significance lie in between the dots?   The seven hidden mathematical points...here is the whole quote from "The Secret Doctrine" pages 612-613):

 

"Theo philosophy proceeds on broader lines. From the very beginning of AEons -- in time and space in our Round and Globe -- the Mysteries of Nature (at any rate, those which it is lawful for our races to know) were recorded by the pupils of those same now invisible "heavenly men," in geometrical figures and symbols. The keys thereto passed from one generation of "wise men" to the other. Some of the symbols,thus passed from the east to the west, were brought therefrom by Pythagoras, whowas not the inventor of his famous "Triangle." The latter figure, along with the plane cube and circle, are more eloquent and scientific descriptions of the order of the evolution of the Universe, spiritual and psychic, as well as physical, than volumes of descriptive Cosmogonies and revealed "Geneses." The ten points inscribed within that "Pythagorean triangle" are worth all the theogonies and angelologies ever emanated from the theological brain. For he who interprets them -- on their very face, and in the order given -- will find in these seventeen points (the seven Mathematical Points hidden) the uninterrupted series of the genealogies from the first Heavenly to terrestrial man. And, as they give the order of Beings, so they reveal the order in which were evolved the Kosmos, our earth, and the primordial elements which the latter was generated. Begottenin the invisible Depths, and in the womb of the same "Mother" as its fellow-globes-- he who will master the mysteries of our Earth, will have mastered those of all others."

Tony

 

 

 

 

 

 -----Original Message-----
From: Eugene Carpenter [mailto:Ecarpent@co.la.ca.us]
Sent: 2 January 2001 10:52 pm
To: theos-talk@theosophy.com
Cc: Esoteric Science
Subject: Theos-World Struggling to find the origin of the point of it All.

Dear Group,

 

 

I'm trying to understand whether or not the first three states or planes of consciousness correspond to the first three sets: zero, one and two.  And if so gain insight into the intimacy of these planes through meditating on the intimate relationships between these sets.

 

 

 

1.  Empty Set

 

2.  Set containing the empty set

 

3.  Set containing both of the above

 

 

or.

 

 

 

1. Zero

 

2. One

 

3. Two

 

 

 

or.

 

 

 

 

1.  (        )

 

2.  (  (  )  )

 

3.  (       ( ), (  ( )  )      )

 

 

 

Let's pretend that we enter into the empty set as if it were an empty consciousness.  Then we might "see":

 

 

1.

 

2. (       )

 

3. (   ( ),     )

 

 

In other words:

 

1. Consciousness which is empty

 

2. Consciousness which contains the

     representation of empty

     consciousness

 

3. Consciousness which contains repre-

     sentations of both states above.

 

 

Two things one might notice which seem very very cool.

 

If one is at the third state of consciousness and focuses on the  number 1. state one becomes most resonate with the number 2. state.

 

(                    )

 

 

If one is at the third state but insteadfocusing on the representation of number 2. then one would be most resonant with the number  3. state.

 

(  (    )           )

 

 

By doing so the effect would be to be resonant to the number 2. state and then to the number 3. state, like going in and out of pralaya.( from Atma to Monadic, back to

Atma, etc.)

 

 

 

The other interesting observation is to recognize that:

 

1. Here there is no inside and no outside

    and can be no symbol.  A mathematical point has no inside but must have an outside.

 

2. Here there is inside but no outside,

    in fact, all of abstract space itself.  There is no abstract

    space outside of abstract space.

 

 

3. Here there is that which has inside but

    no outside together, but it is together in the same state

    of consciousness as that with no inside 

    and no outside, ( that with no inside and no outside is like a mathematical

    point without any space in which to be

    expressed.)

 

 

BUT

 

 

 Can't these two, now found in state number 3.,  now be superimposed? We could then get:

 

 

1.

 

2. (              )

 

3. (      .       )

 

 

 

Now, at level three, the mathematical point can appear as the abstract space it needed was represented at level two.  One can concentrate on the point without any abstract space, and fail, or one can concentrate on the space without any point, and just rest, or one can concentrate on both and then the point can appear.

 

 

This is why I'm thinking that the first three sets in mathematics corresponds to the first three abstract planes in any septenate of states(or planes) of consciousness.

 

1. Zero

 

2. One

 

3. Two

 

re-presented as

 

 

1.

 

2.  (            )

 

3.  (      .     )

 

 

This yields our beginning and ending point and it can polarize into the line and the line can be used to construct a triangle and the triangle can be used to construct a tetrahedron, etc.

 

 

 

 

            o

(           .            )

 

(        .      .        )

 

(      .     .     .     )

 

(   .     .    .     .   )

 

 

 

 

Gene