Theos-Talk Archives (December 2000 Message tt00012)

Dear Peter,

 

Thankyou very much.  Very nice. That the heart can live with the paradox is lovely.  I remember reading that Kurt Godel stated that we can never build a thinking machine(because it can't handle self-referential statements) and that whatever machines we build will need human input in order to help the machines with these paradoxical statements.  However, he stated that he couldn't rule out that we might construct an intuition machine that could help the logical one.  Ah!  How to construct the artificial human heart, in the poet's sense of the term!

 

The heart integrates thought, emotion, andbehavior into one glorious whole Life.  How we need the intuition that one finds in deep contemplation!

 

Thankyou,

Intuitively onward,

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Peter Merriott

To: theos-talk@egroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 1:34 PM

Subject: RE: Theos-World Consciousness/Unconsciousness

Dear Gene,

 

Here are some reflections that arise from reading yours.

 

You ask,   "What is the difference between 1 and 0?  (same as between10 and 0)"

 

When I try and sense into this it seems there can be no difference.  There is only ever the ONE.

 

To the conceptual mind that is born of differentiation, and thus cognises differences, the Absulute is reduced to  NOUGHT  that can be conceived.

 

To the intuition it  is  always  the  ever-present   ONE.   The ever incognisable PRESENCE.

 

It is not that it is no-thing.   It just isn't any-thing.

 

In other words it is 'empty of other'... empty of any-thing other than ITSELF, the ONE.

 

This ishow I would understand the description of SPACE given it in the Secret Doctrineas "bare subjectivity."   It only appears "unconscious" to our limited kind of conceptual conscoiusness.  Reall it is pure consciousness, Absolute Consciousness. 

 

It makes sense to me that this ONE which is 'empty of other', "bare subjectivity",  isalso what Franklin Merrell-Wolff terms "Consciousness without an object." (in Pathways through to Space & Philosophy of Consciousness without an object)

 

Perhapsa different kind of question is,  ""What is the difference between the unmanifested ONE and the manifested ONE?"

 

The conceptual mind adds and subtracts and either ends up in duality "2" or nothing, "0".

 

The heart senses the ONE is in the ONE.

 

The heart can live with the paradox that the ONE is in the OTHER and yet is always 'empty of other-ness'.

 

Anotherkind of question is,  "What is the difference between the 1 and the 10?

 

How do we just sense into that... within ourselves...? 

 

... theONE that is in the ONE and is everywhere

... the O that is also the ONE which is nowhere... because it cannot be limited to any 'one' place or time.

 

""The One is an unbroken Circle (ring) with no circumference, for it is nowhereand everywhere..."  (Secret Doctrine, vol 1, p 11)

 

Just some reflections to add to yours.

 

all the best,

 

Peter

 

 

 

 

 -----Original Message-----
From: Eugene Carpenter [mailto:Ecarpent@co.la.ca.us]
Sent: 05 December 2000 16:39
To: Esoteric Science; theos-talk@theosophy.com
Cc: poles@iitp.ru
Subject: Theos-World Consciousness/Unconsciousness

Big question:  What is the difference between 1 and 0?(same as between 10 and 0)

 

Using set notation and praying for clarity:

 

zero or  (        )

 

one or (  (  )  )