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Re: Theos-World Physical existence of Jesus

Oct 19, 2000 09:51 AM
by Shampan-e-Shindh


Not quite out of topic, there is a documentary done regarding the Dead Sea Scrolls narrated by scholars from the US University faculties, the discussion was very elaborate, neutral (the most important), and informative.
It was specially made when they discovered the "delete-overwrite" in the Dead Sea Scrolls, with the laser-tests. I wish I could recall who produced it. But there has not been more than 10 such done since the discovery.

arthra999@yahoo.com wrote:

It was common in the late nineteenthcentury  among the
intelligentsia to dispute the physical existence of Jesus. I've read
similar material from Swami Vivekananda and so on, that Christ
was a complilation of various mystery traditions.

However, if you consider the writings and arguments of the Jews
and Pagans around the time of early Christianity, there is no
record to my knowledge of anyone disputing the physical
existence of  Jesus as a serious argument.  If anyone knows of
this please let me know...

Some have identified Him with Essene Prophet of
Righteousness as did GRS Mead.

To me Jesus had a physical manifestation and the early Logia
and teachings are evidence in themselves of this, there is also
the output of Greek material as well as Coptic and evidence of
the Essene and Nazorean communities .

It's interesting that Apollonius is compared to Jesus. To me they
were separate entities in separate worlds, but having
similarities. The differences would be that Jesus was in an
Aramaic cultural context and should beappreciated in that
setting. while Apollonius was Hellenistic and should be
appreciated in that context.

I also doubt very much that there has been a successful union
between the Hellenistic world and the Judaic Aramaean world.
Attempts were made to translate what Jesus said from Aramaic
to Greek and so on, but these were only "attempts". Even the
verb structure of Aramaic and Greek are desparate and mutually
exceptional, so no truly accurate translation can occur because
the two systems are based on totally different conceptions of
reality.

- Art
 

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