RE: Theos-World Re: [bn-sd] Re: anatman
Aug 11, 2000 03:09 PM
by dalval
Aug 9th
Dear Leon:
Is not this expression you give based on the physical material
advances in understanding force, energy, and their operation on
matter? But I do not find that the cause or the moral effect of
causal change -- the unit's relation and responsibility to the
"whole" it dwells in and with -- being definable, or am I missing
something?
As I see it, the progress of the immortal MONAD through various
stages of experience continually adds an increment of
consciousness and self-awareness to it. In the human stage
(ours) we now find that our thinking (Intellect ?) gas added or
perhaps opened, the doorway to moral (ethical) perception as a
sense of community with other immortals ( MONADS ) which are
progressing along in and around it.
Is not this sense of community and interaction the crucial point?
How would we define "self-induced" and "self-defined" thought,
motive and action? What would be Karma and CAUSE --as a basis
for self-regulated future and what kind of "goals" are we to set?
I have been puzzling over this or a very long time.
Dal
D. T. B.
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Subject: Theos-World Re: [bn-sd] Re: anatman
In a message dated 08/03/00 9:41:19 PM, dalval@nwc.net writes:
>In manifestation there is a TRINITY in operation. SPIRIT and
>MATTER are polar opposites. But, they are perceived by
>CONSCIOUSNESS and its many "Rays." The source of CONSCIOUSNESS
>is the ONE ABSOLUTENESS ever in a non-manifested condition. In
>manifestation its RADIATIONS are uncountable and are the "rays"
>which permit a discrimination between purity, truth, spirit, and
>form, limitation, illusion, temporal existence -- or "matter,"
>or "personality-limited" consciousness (Lower Manas in mankind).
To more or less clarify this in "the language of the age," or in
scientific
terms for those of us of a more technical bent... CONSCIOUSNESS,
experienced
(when MANIFEST) as individualized AWARENESS, is simply the
functional
attribute of the "dimensionless" LAYA-or ZERO-POINTS that fill
all of
"metric" space ("whose center is everywhere and whose
circumference is
nowhere")... With each such manifest "zero-point" identically
reflecting all
the energetic and informative aspects of the original ABSOLUTE,
or "noumenal"
ZERO-POINT of UNIVERSAL ORIGIN -- and containing the "abstract
motion" which
constitutes the total "electrical energy" of the KOSMOS (the all
containing
"Absolute space") prior to the manifestation of our particular
COSMOS (called
"Universe," after its final transformation into our or
metric-space and its
myriad "physical" beings).
This primal Electrical or "MOTIONAL ENERGY" also "carries" (as
"interference
patterns" of abstract "spinergy" resting in PRALAYA) all the root
holographic
"Images" of the "INFORMATIVE" and "IMAGINATIVE" memory of our
Universes'
previous MANVANTARA. Together, the primal "Electricity" and the
sleeping
"Memory patterns" are the roots of both MAHAT and FOHAT, which,
when
awakened, INFORM and EMPOWER the subsequent genesis of the Cosmos
in
accordance with the "formulas" and "descriptions" partially
enumerated and
expounded in the Book of Dzyan, and further explained (albeit
superficially,
due to the limits of the English language) in the Secret
Doctrine. (Thus, the
requirement of "intuition" as a prerequisite of complete
understanding.)
MATTER, then, is this "abstract motion" -- envisioned as
non-dimensional, non
polar, non local, circular "spin" (of primal space) or
"spinergy," around its
zero-point (the "seven invisible robes of the "Mother," as spoken
of in the
Book of Dzyan) that EMANATES spirally out of the Kosmos and
expands or
"inflates" -- while condensing in increasing degrees of density
into the
three, four, seven, etc., levels, PLANES, "fields" and other
"attributes" of
circular metric (spherical) SPACE. This inner expansion appears
as
multidimensional, coadunate and coenergetic FIELDS, each composed
of infinite
lines ("Strings") or RAYS of force that are formed by continuous
loops of
triple cyclic energy flow of different aspects of primal magnetic
(derivative
of "electrical") forces circling through all six directions of
3-dimensional
space (up, down, N, E, S, W) around the three polar axes
(reflecting the
three geometric axes of the DIAMOND HEART) and through the
"zero-point"
center of every manifest non-metric "zero-point energy" field (as
well as
each of their derivative metric "space-time" or "physical" energy
fields).
Imagine the formation of each individual spherical
zero-point-spatial field
or sub field as being similar to a ball of string -- with every
one of its
continuous outer windings crossing twice through the geometric
center of the
ball and leaving and entering from the opposite poles of one of
its three
primary axes (like the magnetic field of the Earth) where the
beginning and
ends of these strings join adjacent coadunate fields through
their
"zero-points" on different levels of spatial substantiality.
Imagine, also,
all these points as being "non-locally" in one place, or "primal
space,"
empty of all attributed (but not aspects) -- and that only
"appear" (using
our physical eyes and brain on this level of substantiality) to
be spread out
as separate, local points through metric (or measurable) space.
This,
incidentally, is the meaning behind the Vedantic and Buddhistic
concepts that
the physical world is an "illusion," or that everything we
experience in and
of it is "empty" or "void." Of course, from a broader viewpoint,
this also
infers that nothing on this level stays constant or permanent
through Time,
and is in constant flux or change... But, does not mean that
nothing "exists"
in the reality of each "moment of time" (as we experience them
with our
physical tools of observation, from their same physical level --
in which we
also exist as Body and Mind linked, through the endless and
beginningless
RAYS of Spirit, to our own individual and eternal zero-point of
awareness).
The difficulty in such imagining using the finite, lower mind, is
that the
adjacent fields are both inside and outside of the "ball of
circular energy
strings" and differ in density as well as energy levels,
frequency "phase,"
or "spectrum"... But, by use of the "imagination" coupled with
the direct
perception of ideas, or the "awakening" the "intuition" in the
higher mind,
it is possible to understand and visualize these conditions. The
trick (yogic
method:-) is -- by understanding the dual nature of both mind and
brain -- to
position ones focus of consciousness or "concentrated awareness"
so as to
look with the "inner eye" from the zero-point center outward, and
simultaneously (alternately, in the cycle of the "ultimate
division of time")
from the outside inward. Incidentally, Patanjali speaks of this,
as well as
describes the method of arriving at such concentration (based on
the
observation that the mind can hold only one "image" or thought at
a time)
through progressive meditational practice "with-and without a
seed." The
ultimate goal, of course, being the arrival at "enlightenment" or
"isolation
of the Soul or Self" which comes about through an understanding
of the
"ultimate division of time."
Simply put, from the standpoint of the "primal" or initial, ideal
field
formation, this expansion of the original ZERO-POINT ENERGY forms
a finite
series of fields within fields within fields, etc. (like soap
bubbles, within
bubbles, within bubbles...) in descending orders of increasing
density and
decreasing energy -- extending from the subtlest ATMA fields,
through the
five inner sub-fields (BUDDHI, MANAS, KAMA, PRANA, ASTRAL), to
the densest
PHYSICAL BODY fields of every manifest form -- including the
smallest sub
quark to the largest galactic cluster and all non organic and
organic forms
in between. ("As above, so below.") Thus, because there is only
one primal
energy rooted in every reflected zero-point -- everything in the
universe is
intimately connected to consciousness or Spirit at the root of
their being.
Note that the first surrounding field of all the subsequent inner
fields
(after the prior, FIRST CAUSE, or PARABRAHM) is the Field of the
SUPREME
SPIRIT of the COSMOS (BRAHMA), and is the "Ring Pass Not" of the
esoteric
teachings out of which MAHATMA -- the "Spirit in ALL of Nature,"
from which
comes ATMA, the "Spirit in man" -- springs forth.
For a symbolic cross-sectional picture of how these fields
initially involve
and evolve ideally into their 3-dimensional cyclic patterns --
(before their
holographic image interference patterns of "information,"
empowered by the
Force of FOHAT, guided by the WILL+MIND [Kryashakti] power of the
CHOHAN
BUILDERS, and governed by the cyclic laws of EVOLUTION, or KARMA,
"inform"
these fields as they "revolve" around their individual LAYA
points to
eventually, by descending and evolving through all the fourteen
fold primary
fields and sub fields, form the stars, galaxies, planets, etc.,
and continue
the involution and evolution of all the myriad forms that make up
the known
Universe and all its, infinitely divisable, seven fold
"beings") -- see the
"chakrafield" diagram at:
http://members.aol.com/uniwldarts/uniworld.artisans.guild/chakraf
ield.html
NOTE: As advised by HPB, be careful not to take any symbolic
diagrams as
pictorial realities -- since the actual inner field structures of
our
infinitely complex multidimensional, multiphase Universe, are
both "coadunate
but not consubstantial," linear and non-linear, intangible and
tangible,
measurable and unmeasurable, etc. (This, in essence, means that
the fields of
differing substantiality, energy level and quality interpenetrate
each other
and that their zero-point centers are essentially the same
point.) Also note,
that not all of the Universe's individual forms can be "pictured"
or imagined
by the finite lower brain-mind or KAMA MANAS, which can only
envision as far
as the finite three dimensions of the PHYSICAL field structures
of which it
is an integral part.
I hope this discussion can help clarify our understandings a bit
further.
Additional details related to consciousness and the fundamental
holographic
field structure of the universe, with respect to visual
perception, can be
found at:
http://www.tellworld.com/Astro.Biological.Coenergetics/
I welcome any and all questions and comments.
LHM
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