Theos-Talk Archives (June 2000 Message tt00134)

I brought it up about 18 months ago I think. Pretty much got attacked left
right and centre....

nos



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> From: owner-theos-talk@theosophy.com
> [mailto:owner-theos-talk@theosophy.com]On Behalf Of ernesto
> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 12:21 AM
> To: theos-talk@theosophy.com
> Subject: Theos-World Aleister Crowley and Theosophy.
>
>
>
> Dear friends:
>
> Do any of you know if in this list has been previously discussed Aleister
> Crowley's teachings in relation with Theosophy?  Do any of you
> know what he
> opined about HPB's teachers? Or the Mahatmas' opinion about himm, if any?
>
> DAVID  C.
>
>
>
>
> LeonMaurer@aol.com escribió:
>
> > In a message dated 06/10/00 11:30:43 AM, benge@adsnet.com writes:
> >
> > >I don't know how anyone can not experience God personally, and
> a savior is a
> > >matter of perspective.  When a person is drowning, and another
> person comes
> > >along and tells him to stand up -- the water is three feet
> deep, that other
> > >person is perceived as savior.
> >
> > "Experiencing God, personally," as the divine power within us
> all (through
> > the culmination of deep meditation, or otherwise), and believing in a
> > "personal" God who is the absolute ruler of your individual
> destiny -- are
> > two different things. The impersonal Godhead (Ein Soph or
> Parabrahm), as the
> > ineffable divine power behind universal origin and evolution, has no
> > relationship or personal interest in any individual part of, or
> being in, the
> > universe.
> >
> > Believing that someone who saves your life is your savior is
> one thing, and
> > believing that a so called "Son of God Savior," such as Jesus
> died to save
> > you from reaping karmic punishment for your own sins -- is another.  The
> > latter idea, called "vicarious atonement," was contrived by the
> priests of
> > the Christian Church long after Jesus died, and directly contradicts the
> > theosophical teachings, as well as the direct teachings of
> Jesus himself.
> > For a look at who this biblical character really was, his
> relationship to the
> > Church founded in his name, and what he actually believed in, see:
> > http://members.aol.com/graphinc/wwtmcjc.html
> >
> > Understanding that you are a relatively new student of
> theosophy -- when you
> > study a bit more of the esoteric teachings of theosophy and the
> comparative
> > religion given us by HPB in Isis Unveiled and the Secret
> Doctrine, you will
> > be even better able to discriminate between and understand the
> meaning of the
> > above ideas -- that you, apparently, misinterpreted completely
> from reading
> > the letter commented on.
> >
> > LHM
> >
> >
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