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Re: Theos-World Fundamental theosohical principles and their relationship toscience.

May 25, 2000 04:24 PM
by Eugene Carpenter


Kim,

Please take your time.  No hurry.  As D.K. has written, "Make haste slowly."
!

I'm very pleased that these thoughts have some interest to you.

I haven't heard very much about those secret groups.  That makes good sense!

  I found the secret doctrine and Alice Bailey to be interesting but very
hard.  Studying them and getting not very far led me to the conclusion that
I'd better think things through as best I could myself.  So I've thought and
thought and thought, starting at the beginning with the fundamentals.  I was
pleasantly surprised.  Like the camel wanting only to warm it's nose a bit I
found that by thinking for myself I was slowly being admitted to a rather
neat club of folks, those who do their own thinking.  Then Blavatsky and
Bailey started to have more meaning.  One can't learn all about tennis by
reading and studying it.  One must play.
So I'm at the roots of that inverted Tree of Knowledge and I try to stay
focussed there until I understand as much as possible, this life, before
"descending" into the more complicatedly intellectual realms and applying
this to the medical field.  The question remains.  Can we all together
understand the transcendental basis for our Life here together?  I mean
really understand it.  Your last e-mail let's me know, yes, yes we can.  I
can see that you have researched into and are atuned to the same study space
as myself and many others.  I am starting to see the answers to basic
questions becoming now obvious, on the early pages of the Secret Doctrine,
and I'm interested why what is now more obvious was years ago so obscure.
Dallas is right- on when stress is on the psychological key.  I think that
as things are harmonized psychologically then the mathematical key becomes
sort of an insiders language for communication, but, not before.  But each
one is different and goes through different phases at different times.  It's
wonderful.

My point is that this is a rational system  that each one of us can an will
search and find the answers through meditation and contemplation whether we
study HPB or AAB both or neither.  The Universe loves us emensely and will
not leave us out of it's evolution 'cause we aren't studying this or that.
There is a musical and magical and orderly way that we thinkers can organize
our thinking in regard to color and sound and number.  The ancients knew how
and we can learn how and then our individual world views can merge into  one
world view.  Telepathic communication will become much easier.  Continuity
of consciousness will be more and more common.  It's all that training in
the mode of Francis Bacon and Aristotle that must be transfigured and merged
with the Theosophic mode so that Divine Logic and human experience are once
again one.  The Dance of Life, Shiva and Radha?

This morning I was thinking that consciousness expresses the trinity, it
itself as one part of the three, as:

Consciousness
Consciousness of Consciousness
Consciousness of Consciousness of Consciousness

It is just that simple.

Or


(                  )
(     (     )     )
(    ((   ))      )


or

NULL
UNITY
TWO

or


Consciousness
Self
Consciousness of Self


And here I stay, or, I start to feel a bit scatterred.  The permutations of
these three consciousness states give the four atributes and are exact
defintions of Buddhic-intuition, Science, Idealism and Devotion, and
Ceremonial Order and Magic(or our physical world).

These three states of consciousness are not the trinity.  They correspond to
the trinity.

This will all have to be proved.  It would be truely tragic for anyone to
accept this without understanding it.  I have been wrong so many times.
Beware.

Gene



-----Original Message-----
From: Kim Poulsen <kpoulsen@vip.cybercity.dk>
To: theos-talk@theosophy.com <theos-talk@theosophy.com>
Date: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 3:48 PM
Subject: Re: Theos-World Fundamental theosohical principles and their
relationship toscience.


>Gene, I have little time just now to investigate your system in detail
>(which differs a little from my own "working hypothesis"). I will love to
do
>it later, especially in light of the system of Leibniz, and other similar.
>But I will share something with you: are you familiar with the secret
>Himalayan schools? The Kashmir Shaivites, the Buddhist and Hindu
>tantricists?


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