Theos-Talk Archives (May 2000 Message tt00237)

Kim,

I just wanted to say that your last e-mail was one of the most important and
interesting e-mails I've ever received.  Thankyou.  I do plan to respond.
I'll need a little time.  I'll mail out the quotes, if I may, as I've only
gotten two requests and then I'll email the file after I gather it all
together on a flobby. Please sent an address that you would be comfortable
to have known or if you prefer, I'll gather and send to your private e-mail.
(All others please let me know if you are also interested in these zero
quotations.)

I've been dreaming about zero, one, and two(the zero and the one) as the
basic trinity: Will, Love, and Intellect, since 1980 when I wrote a little
paper on it for my meditation group.  Clear and precise definitions of
Buddhic-Intuition, Science, Ideology, and physical behavior flow from this
transcendent basis.  The three qualities of  0,1, and 2 combine like colors
and sound to give one the four other qualities(or virtues).  I've got lots
to ask you,  especially about Spencer-Brown, Leibniz, Meister Eckart,
Spinoza, Nagarjuna and the Sea of Fire.  I'll share a little bibliography
concerning nothing in philosophy and nothing in physics soon.

Yours,
Gene


-----Original Message-----
From: Kim Poulsen <kpoulsen@vip.cybercity.dk>
To: theos-talk@theosophy.com <theos-talk@theosophy.com>
Date: Thursday, May 18, 2000 2:07 AM
Subject: Re: Theos-World Several Comments on Alice Bailey


>    Gene, please stay on this list and try to endure the howling dervishes
>you unknowingly aroused by mentioning Mrs. Bailey. The 3 "critical essays"
>mentioned, are not worth bothering with, not so much due to their
unpleasant
>spirit pervading them, as to the absence of analytic capacity demonstrated
>by the authors. The criticism amounts apparently to finding words in the
>works of AAB, which are uncommon in HPB's works.
>
>    One example: Mr. Weeks, who was a fan of AAB for 10 or more years as I
>recall, but nowadays has turned upon his former "religion"with great zeal,
>has a problem with the term "Maitreya", so well-known from buddhism. He
also
>have a problem with the Maitreya invocation found in AAB, even though the
>tibetan canon has at least half a dozen such invocations. Along with the
>fact that a work like "Cosmic Fire" is characteristicly tibetan in
>structure, with its 3 main divisions, and sub-divisions denoted by letters,
>it merely suggests that the author may have been a tibetan and a buddhist.
>
>    Furthermore, a work like the Samdhinirmocanasutra (the Yogacara
"Bible")
>clearly shows what Maitreya means. The last three chapters concern the
three
>bodhisattvas Manjushri ("Lord Manu"), Maitreya (Love) and Avalokiteshvara
>(Seen, or manifested Lord), corresponding to three manifestations of the
>three logoic aspects. Maitreya is the second aspect personified , referred
>also to as "karuna and prajna", or "love and wisdom", in the abstract,
again
>by the buddhists.
>
>    The whole issue brings to my mind the statement by Leadbeater, in his
>foreword to "Light on the Path",  that D. K. was an incarnation of Asanga.
>Asanga lived in the early centuries A.D., and according to Bu-ston, was an
>initiate of the third degree. According to the writings of AAB, D.K became
>an adept of the fifth degree. Among the peculiar traits of Asanga was his
>devotion to "Maitreya", his preference for Yoga philosophy, etc. If
accepted
>as a hypothesis, there is a long list of similarities between Asanga and
>AAB's master.
>
>    But enough of this. The situation on the theosophical discussion list
>has reached a point, where the very mentioning of the name "Alice Bailey"
>brings out a reaction, ranging from violent attacks to polite suggestions
>that one should read certain essays. If I ever would use the word
>"pseudo-theosophy", it would be to describe that religious zeal, the
arising
>of which has destroyed every religion. And furthermore completely alien the
>freedom of spirit and freedom of investigation which is the very essence of
>theosophy.
>
>    Now, to speak of a far more pleasant subject (on this Wesak night), I
>would like you to know I enjoyed your postings immensely. Your philosophy
>reminds me so much of Leibnitz and Nagarjuna, they too loved the Philosophy
>of the Void. Did you know that Leibnitz used a numerical, esoteric system
as
>basis for his philosophy? He probably evolved it while working on the
binary
>system. It becomes very clear from the rear side of a coin or medal he had
>made for his benefactor, a german prince. The Universe evolves from
>combinations of  0 and 1, etc. His way of thinking is very close to the
>ancient indian philosophers (and the Pythagoreans), even though his basics
>may differ. The Philosophy of Nothingness and Unity is the somewhat rare
>mark of the "Lineage of the Great Mystery (mahamudra)", as Taranatha calls
>it, or a "1st ray philosophy", as Bailey puts it.
>    Did it ever occur to you that Nirvana and the pralayic state of a
world,
>both counted in graduations up to "Absolute Spirit" and "Absolute Matter",
>both are (must be) co-existing rest-states (during pralaya) ? That is,
since
>it is clear that Nirvana is something difficult to achieve and hence not an
>automatic occuring event, not all will reach that state. So, as in
>Abhidharmakosha 1, we must calculate with three states during pralaya:
>1. All-pervading and infinite Space
>2. Cessation (or rest) caused by spiritual knowledge or wisdom, that is
>Nirvana.
>3  Cessation not caused by spritual knowledge. This somewhat cryptic term
>covers several grades of beings, including "failures" and "sorcerers".
>
>   To bring myself back to the my point (I almost got carried away by
>ancient metaphysics here): I loved your writings, the way the shunya-vada
>(normally so icy-cold), arouses in you excited feelings. Please stay on
this
>list,
>
>in friendship,
>
>Kim Poulsen
>
>Gene:
>> It is great to have all sorts of opinions.  I have studied Bailey for
>thirty
>> years as well as all of Blavatsky(at least all her texts)  I like and
love
>> both and if my life could in anyway preserve these texts in the face of
>some Nazi like
>> book burning rampage I would give my life gladly.   If you do not want a
>scholar that
>> loves both to be on this list, please
>> tell me, and I will leave .....
>
>
>
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