Theos-Talk Archives (May 2000 Message tt00232)

Dear Mr Wheeler -----

If theosophical history is less than important, why does United Lodge of 
Theosophists continue to sell history book of Theosophical Movement where 
Mrs Katherine Tingley is defamed & painted as fraud?

I beg you to use your influence to persuade ULT to withdraw from circulation 
this misleading & inaccurate book.  Book is blot & stain on ULT's 
reputation.

As you rightly suggested, ULT should positively focus on teachings and 
ignore 'all rock-kicking in the graveyards of history.'

ULT history book tries its damn best to rock-kick & stone Mrs K. Tingley.  
What have you done to stop this brutal & untheosophical attack?  Mr. 
Wheeler, don't be silent participant to this untheosophical defaming of dead 
woman.

David


> From: "Jerome Wheeler" <Jwheele@co.santa-barbara.ca.us>
> To: <davidgreen@hotmail.com>, <theos-l@list.vnet.net>
> CC: <carson@blavatsky.net>, <peter.merriott@dial.pipex.com>,        
> <atownley@juno.com>, <dalval@nwc.net>, <compass@theosophycompany.org>,      
>   <gfdrucker@webtv.net>
> Subject: Re: Robert Crosbie and the truth
> Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 08:37:19 -0700
>
> David ---
> If you are really sure a group of people aren't interested in the truth, 
> then what's the big hulabaloo??!!
> Live your life as best you can and we can suppose ULTers will live their's 
> as best they can.  Alright??!!
> I grant you the whole story hasn't been told on either side!!!  so what!!  
> big deall!!  The human heart overrides all rock-kicking in the graveyards 
> of history.  The truth is in you and it is hidden both from me and you.  I 
> hope in your case it is not hidden from YOU as there is no greater friend 
> to be found in this world of Samsara than one's Higher Ego --- there is no 
> greater friend than this, husband, wife, lover, child --- you name it --- 
> this last is #1 son for he teaches how to love life like the sun loves 
> life, to bind rather than to separate humans.  People are precious, time is 
> short, and we have not the patience to indulge the venom of hatred.
> best wishes,
> jerome
>
> >>> "David Green" <davidgreen@hotmail.com> 05/22 8:06 AM >>>
> Frank -----
>
> I'd gladly accept points made by you.  What you write about Mr TenBroeck
> could be true.  But my interaction with Mr TenBroeck & other ULT members
> persuades me they aren't interested in truth about Mrs Tingley & Mr 
> Crosbie.
>   The truth destroys ULT's hidden history & agenda about Mr Crosbie.  They
> seek to hide, censor & suppress information.
>
> Mr TenBroeck has repeatedly ignored material similar to what you've posted.
> He's refused to discuss material on Mrs Tingley & Mr Crosbie. This kind of
> responses leads one to conclude Mr TenBroeck has no intention of discussing
> these issues. Of what is he afraid?
>
> Remember,Frank, ULT publications have repeatedly defamed Mrs Tingley.  ULT
> history book suggests Mrs Tingley was fraud.  This book still sold by ULT.
> Mr TenBroeck constantly refers to this history as impartial account based
> only on facts & documents.  You & I know there's more to story than ULT & 
> Mr
> TenBroeck are willing to admit. But what about others?  What about new
> students & inquirers?
>
> If Mr TenBroeck is seeker of truth & honorable man, let him openly discuss
> with you & others in public forum these issues.
>
> In regards to free access to information, if Mr TenBroeck wants honest
> airing of facts, let him publicly post *complete* Autobiography of Mr
> Crosbie.
>
> I know Mr TenBroeck has complete document but has refused others from 
> having
> copies.  So there be no confusion, I'm referring to Mr Crosbie's
> Autobiography partly quoted in Wane Kell's biographical notes on Crosbie.  
> I
> first tried to contact Mr Kell thru Mr Ramadoss.  Mr Ramadoss was extremely
> unhelpful.  Will Mr Ramadoss admit where he obtained Mr Kell's biographical
> notes on Crosbie? Compare Mr Ramadoss's posting
> ulcf1 http://theosophy.com/theos-talk/tt02353.html
>
> Also remember, Frank, ULT members strongly believe:
>
> ". . . Masters' Messengers to the world, the Transmitters of the
> Wisdom-Religion. Among These, and in our own time and country:
> H.P. Blavatsky, William Q. Judge, and Robert Crosbie. . . "
>
> Theosophy magazine, November 1929
> ulcf1 http://members.tripod.com/davidgreen_2/Links.html
>
> Mrs Tingley not in list.  Wonder why?
>
> "The white dove of truth has hardly room where to rest her weary unwelcome
> foot."
>
> "Error runs down an inclined plane, while Truth has to laboriously climb 
> its
> way up hill."
>
> David
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