Theos-Talk Archives (May 2000 Message tt00198)

Yes.  It starts to become a matter of taste.

Gene


-----Original Message-----
From: Bart Lidofsky <bartl@sprynet.com>
To: theos-talk@theosophy.com <theos-talk@theosophy.com>
Date: Saturday, May 20, 2000 12:20 PM
Subject: Re: Theos-World Mathematics, Spinoza, Leibniz


>    Of course, now we're getting into questions of philosophy, where labels
of
>"true" and "false" are frequently meaningless, and labels of "more useful"
and
>"less useful" taken on more weight.
>
>    Bart Lidofsky
>
>Eugene Carpenter wrote:
>
>> Tobias Dantzig, beloved mathematician historian of Einstein, wrote that
>> unlike the common belief that mathematics is metaphor for the physical
>> world, the reverse is true. THE PHYSICAL WORLD IS METAPHOR FOR THE WORLD
OF
>> MATHEMATICS.  Sorry to shout, but it is an incredibly important statement
if
>> true.  I think Heisenberg would agree as would Whitehead.
>>
>> Gene
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Bart Lidofsky <bartl@sprynet.com>
>> To: theos-talk@theosophy.com <theos-talk@theosophy.com>
>> Date: Friday, May 19, 2000 5:58 PM
>> Subject: Re: Theos-World Mathematics, Spinoza, Leibniz
>>
>> >    Just a couple of comments on a couple of points in your letter:
>> >
>> >LeonMaurer@aol.com wrote:
>> >
>> >> To consider numbers, per se, as having any relationship to spiritual
>> wisdom
>> >> or consciousness -- other than as a mathematical tool for the
>> confirmation or
>> >> measure of the effects of fundamental universal law, is purely
>> speculative.
>> >
>> >    That's not as much of a problem as you might think; consider that
>> numbers are
>> >merely a way of looking at the universe; mathematics is an entirely
>> artificial
>> >discipline, which is what makes its laws fixed within any given
>> mathematical
>> >system (note that one cannot describe mathematics except in mathematical
>> terms).
>> >This does not mean that mathematics is not useful, though it can be
argued
>> that
>> >mathematics belongs in the realm of philosophy rather than science.
>> >
>> >> True Science (with its understanding of both the metaphysical and the
>> >> physical forces and forms based on "the Harmony of the Spheres" in
>> *exact*
>> >> conformance with the fundamental principles) and fundamental
theosophical
>> >> teachings (as presented by HPB and the Masters), are one and the same.
>> >
>> >    And scientists today are getting ever closer (albeit not close
enough)
>> to
>> >"True Science", at least as you define it.
>> >
>> >    Bart
>> >
>> >
>> >
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