Theos-Talk Archives (May 2000 Message tt00135)

This stuff about numbers is super cool.

I have recently learned(Zero, Biography of a Dangerous Idea, by Seife) that
rational numbers occupy zero space on the number line! The irrationals
occupy most, if not all, of the number line!

Also, all measurments in science, of matter, are irrational numbers!(same
source)

Perhaps "Pythagoras" was keeping something secret.  Perhaps only the
rational numbers are to be used in Subjective Pantheism(Wisdom).  The
irrational numbers and the entire number line are part of the domain of
Objective Panthesim(science and it's abstract metaphysical basis).

Wisdom: knowledge of Spirit

Science: knowledge of Matter

Wisdom Science: knowledge of both with all conflicts harmonized.

Real Numbers:  The rational numbers, the numbers of Wisdom. (in continuity)
with the irrational numbers, the numbers of science)

The Buddhic Plane contains a symbol of the circle or chakra with a line
across it.  Could this line be the number line?????.  Could this line in
relationship to the circumference be the Divine and Mysterious Pi, world
soul of the creator, Humanity?(microcosmically speaking).  The smooth and
continuous centrifugal and centripetal forces of our Life?

Love,
Gene


-----Original Message-----
From: Eldon B Tucker <eldon@theosophy.com>
To: theos-talk@theosophy.com <theos-talk@theosophy.com>
Date: Tuesday, May 16, 2000 9:17 PM
Subject: Re: Theos-World Mathematics, Spinoza, Leibniz


>Another interesting thing to consider is the nature of numbers.
>In a somewhat hasty nutshell, we could say that ...
>
>Real numbers measure things that physically exist, that are
>tangible, and might be quantified. These include two types of
>numbers. The rational numbers are like the domain of relationships.
>Every rational number is a relationship between two integers, two
>whole numbers. The other type of real numbers are the irrational,
>like pi, which represent some intangible relationship, where some
>being is related to "something higher," like pi, the golden mean,
>or e (as in the bell-shaped curve and statistics.)
>
>When we move to include the unmanifest, the realm of the potentially
>existing in relationship to that which exists, we have complex
>numbers. A complex number has a real number, the existing part, and
>the imaginary number, the unmanifest, "subjective," aspect, somewhat
>like an "astral prototype".
>
>Here's a first cut at some preliminary thoughts on relating
>types of numbers to the parts of a being:
>
>complex number (a whole being)
>. real number (a manifest being)
>   . rational number (buddhic nature, active karmic relationships)
>     . numerator (a particular being, which the other is measured
>       by, karmic effect)
>     . denominator (how this other being appears in the first, karmic
cause)
>   -or-
>   . irrational number (archetypal relationship between person and
>     something great)
>     . e.g. two lines, a radius and a circumference, related by the ratio
pi
>. imaginary number (unmanifest being)
>   . rational number (buddhic nature, latent karmic relationships)
>     . numerator (a particular being, which the other is measured
>       by, karmic effect)
>     . denominator (how this other being appears in the first, karmic
cause)
>   -or-
>   . irrational number (archetypal relationship between person and
>     something great)
>     . e.g. two lines, a radius and a circumference, related by the ratio
pi
>
>-- Eldon Tucker
>
>At 03:26 PM 5/16/00 -0700, you wrote:
>>Was taught once that what we apparently see as, ... -1, 0, 1, ... is
actually
>>an illusion
>>and what may actually be happening is more akin to 0, 1, 0 as visually
>>demonstrated
>>by the Tibetan dorje.
>>
>>Spencer
>
>
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