Theos-Talk Archives (May 2000 Message tt00076)

In a message dated 04/21/00 7:35:54 AM, barrett.culmback@stanfordalumni.org 
writes:

>Hello:
>
>Thank you for the URLs... most thought-provoking, to put it mildly.  To
>inject yet another notion into the discussion, I am wondering if anyone
>has considered the bearing upon Spirit/Mind/Matter as diagrammatically
>portrayed in the first cited URL, and upon  their temporal implications
>there, of the idea of Nittyapralaya ... constant creation/dissolution.
> If, as HPB states in the SD, "time is the illusion produced by the 
succession
>of our states of consciousness as we move from the Eternal Future, through
>the Eternal Present, into the Eternal Past," then how are we to understand
>the cyclic nature of manifestation?  Have considered these ideas for some
>time, and would welcome other's thoughts.

In accordance with the "Universal Energy field" diagram and other 
evolutionary field diagrams at:
http://members.aol.com/uniwldarts/uniworld.artisans.guild/chakrafield.html
(The following can be visualized with the help of the methods shown at the 
link:
<Meditative Visualization of Triple Energy Flows>)

All universal evolution (as well as the evolution of all beings - "As above, 
so below") of all energy fields starts at the primal "beginning" (Tai Chi) 
from the central (zero) point-instant of the outer "primal sphere" and 
proceeds through time (following the arrows on the diagrams) in an endless 
three cycle path that is repeated on every level (phase change) of inner 
fields from spirit (or pure consciousness) to matter, and, eventually, back 
to spirit --- which, at the end of Time, after the universe collapses back 
into its initial zero-center of infinite "Spinergy" and rest (Pralaya), 
repeats the cycle of manifestation and dissolution (Manvantara to Pralaya) 
endlessly (Nittyapralaya). Therefore, the laws of cycles and periodicity are 
fundamental... And, Time only exists while the evolutionary changes are 
occurring during manvantara.  

These cycles of manifestation and dissolution can be visualized as spiral in 
nature, and on each rebirth, each being returns to "life" at a higher level 
of awareness and wisdom, due to accumulated experience, governed by 
individual karma.  In the case of Mankind, such karma is self determined, and 
cumulative as well as causative, and can be reversed, modified, neutralized, 
harmonized, or transcended by the conscious application of appropriate 
counter causation (empowered by will). e.g., The practical application of the 
"Heart Doctrine," as discribed in the *Voice of the Silence*, along with the 
attainment of enlightenment through the practice of Rajah Yoga meditation as 
described in the *Yoga Aphorisms* of Patanjali. 

Incidentally, the visualization and pondering on the evolution of the 7-fold 
centers of consciousness of our individual nature (chakras), as an outgrowth 
of the 14-fold outer "forms" of their energy fields (invisible aura), can be 
used both as a meditation "with a seed," as explained by Patanjali, as well 
as in the physical and mental practice of Tai Chi Chuan, a Chinese meditative 
martial art (similar to Hatha yoga in combination with Rajah Yoga). 

I hope this technical metaphysical approach (through mental visualization) 
might help in comprehending HPB's statement, and realizing the fact that 
evolution of the Universal consciousness (as well, analogously, as that of 
all the potentially sentient beings spinning out of it -- from the lowest 
forms, through mankind, up to the Universe itself) are continuously, in their 
respective "kingdoms," being (1) born, (2) experiencing the consciousness of 
"life" and its karma (action), (3) returning to their zero-point centers of 
infinite wisdom, and (4) are reborn again and again-- in endless cycles of 
manifestation and dissolution... With Time being the measure of such changes 
in conscious experience during each successive cycle of experience.  

LHM

>-----Original Message-----
>>From: owner-theos-talk@theosophy.com
>>[mailto:owner-theos-talk@theosophy.com]On Behalf Of LeonMaurer@aol.com
>
>Sent: Friday, April 21, 2000 1:29 AM
>To: basic@blavatsky.net; theos-talk@theosophy.com
>Subject: Theos-World Fundamental theosohical principles and their
>relationship to science.
>
>In a message dated 04/19/00 1:37:32 AM, Shersy17@aol.com writes:
>
>>In a message dated 4/17/00 8:42:58 PM, LeonMaurer@aol.com writes:
>
>>> Without reference to the above mentioned historical review, 
>>>but with reference to modern and post modern science, 
>>>I hopefully await some intelligent discussions in these 
>>>theosophical forums related to the fundamental scientific 
>>>principles that underlies all evolution, as well as the scientific 
>>>relationships between spirit, mind and matter -- as presented 
>>>in the SD and other writings of HPB and her (pseudonymous or 
>>>not) Masters KH and M -- and supplemented by other >
>>>corroborative writings of William Q. Judge, under their direct 
>>>tutelage 
>
>>Dear Leon,
>
>>Why dont you start the conversation.  What is the most 
>>basic fundamental principle that underlies all evolution?
>
>Okay.  Here is how I see it.
>
>The "most basic fundamental principle" is that there are actually three
>fundamental principles that go hand in hand with each other, and act as
>one.  These are, (1) the principle of Absolute Origin (2) the principle of 
Law,
>and (3) the principle and purpose of Evolution 
>
>They are explained, from a "scientific" point of view (with reference to
>the >Proem of the Secret Doctrine), as: 
>
>(1); The origin of the Cosmos starting from a "sleeping" zero (laya) point
>of nfinite energy and infinite duration, in the form of absolute abstract
>motion -- which has no physical dimensions or other conceivable attributes,
>and potentially exists, in the "emptiness" of absolute abstract space as
>fundamental "cyclic spin" around three primary axes on seven invisible
>and intangible layers or "Robes" -- prior to its periodic "awakening" and 
>manifestation. This primal "spinergy" contains, in its holographic 
>interference patterns of endless and beginningless circular motion with
>varying degrees of momentum, which, when manifest in lawful degrees or
>"phases" of vibrational energies descending from infinite spirit to finite
>>matter, contains all the memories and acquired knowledge of the universe's
>prior existences -- which are accessible to the individual "awareness"
>inherent in the static zero-point itself -- and which, after emanation and 
>manifestation, is reflected everywhere.  Upon manifestation into the Cosmos,
>this nonlinear circular motion transforms, after three major phases (logos)
>emanating from each of its 3 spin axis, into a finite harmonic series of
>7 + 7 coenergetic (capable of transforming energy from one field to another)
>vibrational fields, appearing as nonlinear "coadunate but not consubstantial"
>bubbles within bubbles within bubbles, enclosed by continuous loops within
>loops within loops of linear force (the basis of postmodern scientific
>>Superstring and M-brane theories), centered around their zero-points of
>potential awareness or consciousness -- in accordance with the second 
>fundamental principle of; (2) The immutable laws of cycles and periodicity 
-- based on initial circular motion -- which is the fundamental governing 
cause of both karma 
>(action-inertia-reaction) and reincarnation (birth-death-rebirth) ... leading
>>to the final fundamental principle of; (3) Evolution and involution ... 
Whereby 
>spirit and its root of pure consciousness on 7, 10 and 12 levels or "planes" 
or 
>"coenergetic phases" of action potential originating at the zero-point, 
>involutionally transforms into matter (with its myriad degrees of forms in 4 
>physical stages of evolution from Mineral to Vegetable to Animal to Man) ... 
While 
>matter, informed by spirit and its associated universal consciousness, and 
>governed by fundamental cyclic Law, evolutionally transforms back to spirit 
and
>pure consciousness at the end of each wakeful phase of manifest existence  
This
>process is endless and beginningless and is repeated through varying periods
>of finite time in each subsequent descending and ascending sub cycle of
>universal evolution - with all zero-points of consciousness gaining 
>appropriate degrees of experience along the way -- subject to their 
>individual karma.  ("As above, so below" -- according to the ancient occult
>catechism attributed to Hermes.)  The third principle also states, from
>a theosophical standpoint, that the purpose of this evolutionary process
>is for the "experience of the soul." All this is quite clearly elaborated on 
from
>a theosophical standpoint in the Proem of the Secret Doctrine, as well as
>in the Ocean of Theosophy.
>
For a simplified symbolic diagrammatic look at how these ascending and
>descending fields of force evolve prior to their breaking of symmetry (due 
>to the particularized holographic memories, images and inherent knowledge
>>associated with each field's and subfield's coincident zero-points and
>their resonant interferences with the memories and their volitional actions,
>or karma, in adjoining fields) -- along with their theosophical and 
scientific
>correlations, see my web sites at:
>
>http://users.aol.com/uniwldarts/uniworld.artisans.guild/chakrafield.html
>
>http://users.aol.com/uniwldarts/uniworld.artisans.guild/evolution2.html
>
>For a further discussion of how these principles underlie our human 
>consciousness and perception, see my web site at:
>http://www.tellworld.com/Astro.Biological.Coenergetics/ 
>
>I hope this is a satisfactory start, and would be pleased to answer any
>questions, and consider any suggestions or comments related to correlations
>between theosophical principles and all disciplines of current science
>-- which, as HPB predicted is now approaching the fundamental truths of 
>theosophy, through the interdisciplinary field of "consciousness studies,"
>. 
>Respectfully,
>
>Leon
>
>leonmaurer@aol.com
>http://users.aol.com/leonmaurer/LHM.index.html


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