Theos-Talk Archives (May 2000 Message tt00014)

  It is true that infected drug users who would share a hypodermic
needle by passing it to a fellow user soon after use chance passing on
HIV (specifically) in that needle (and that is why such drug users are
told they must sterilize this type of needle with bleach).  But  I
understand that most sharps - sewing needles, pins, etc. - still will
not carry live virus on their surfaces for a long enough time for this
particular kind of hoax under average conditions. (Hasn't the test
record shown that even under extremely favorable conditions, like a warm
wet public toilet seat in fairly constant use, the longest the virus has
'survived' on a hard surface is fifteen minutes to one-half hour?)  In
either case, I totally agree it's better to be safe than sorry.

  -  Michele L.

  

  

clint mccray wrote:
> 
> This is not completely true.  A needle must be
> dipped in and filled with Bleach for ten seconds
> before the virus existing in any residual fluids
> is neutralized (or treated otherwise).  Let's not
> forget that there are other diseases in needles
> as well. (hepatitis, etc.)  As far as the rumor,
> yes, it is an urban myth, don't worry about it.
> 
> Be careful if you find a bag or clothes, reaching
> into these things is where people actually get
> pricked.  Police/Fire take most of the brunt of
> this.  But, even if you are poked, and even if
> the needle does carry disease, you still stand a
> good chance of being OK.  Either way, there is no
> disease in Devachan.
> 
> FEAR NOTHING, LOVE ALL and never forget ALL IS
> ONE
> 
> >   The rumour can be put to rest, and any fears
> > at ease , with the
> > knowledge that the HIV virus does not survive
> > out of its (live blood)
> > environment on a cold hard surface for more
> > than a couple of minutes at
> > the most.  So even if such a trick was
> > attempted, by the time the
> > perpetrator left the scene and some random
> > victim arrives, the virus
> > would be harmless.
> >
> >   So don't waste energy worrying about it.
> >
> >
> >    - Michele Lidofsky
> >
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