Theos-Talk Archives (February 2000 Message tt00042)

Charles

"Since Fohat crossed the Circle like two lines of flame (horizontally and
vertically), the hosts of the Blessed Ones have never failed to send their
representatives upon the planets they are made to watch over from the
beginning." This is why the Swastica is always placed -- as the ansated
Cross was in Egypt -- on the breasts of the defunct mystics. It is found on
the heart of the images and statues of Buddha, in Tibet and Mongolia. It is
the seal placed also on the hearts of the living Initiates, burnt into the
flesh, for ever, with some. This, because they have to keep those truths
inviolate and intact, in eternal silence and secrecy to the day these are
perceived and read by their chosen successors -- new Initiates -- "worthy of
being entrusted with the ten thousand perfections." So degraded, however,
has it now become, that it is often placed on the headgear of the "gods,"
the hideous idols of the sacrilegious Bhons, the Dugpas (Sorcerers) of the
Tibetan borderlands; until found out by a Galukpa and torn off together with
the head of the "god;" though it would be better were it that of the
worshipper which was severed from the sinful body. Still, it can never lose
its mysterious properties." (The Secret Doctrine, vol. II, page, 586).

The top brass in Hitler's army did even LITERALLY have the swastika on their
headgear, officers hats, etc., but I am not sure to what extent the infantry
wore it on their headgear.

Tony

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-theos-talk@theosophy.com
[mailto:owner-theos-talk@theosophy.com]On Behalf Of Charles Sitwell
Sent: 19 February 2000 11:16 am
To: theos-talk@theosophy.com
Subject: Re: Theos-World Bizarre HPB reference on Website


LeonMaurer@aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 2/17/0 9:19:11 AM, nos@granite.net.au writes:
>
> >http://www.freenet.msp.mn.us/org/mythos/mythos.www/GRAILINX.HTML
> >
> HPB and Secret Doctrine referenced - by connecting to
> >http://user.fastinet.net/kalogonis/index/lance.htm
> >
> >From a page of links re: Sir Laurence Gardeners 'Bloodline of the Holy
> >Grail'
> >
> >The Author has some interesting points but it all seems a bit twisted.
>
> Right.  Although the aim of the site to discredit Hitler, the Nazis and
the
> "deniers of the holocaust" is well intentioned, the reference to Blavatsky
as
> the foundation of Hitler's occultism is more than twisted. It is quite
> ignorant of the meaning of the word "occult" as well as the "swastika" --
> since, occultism, as related to theosophy, has a dual potential.  That is,
> for both Black as well as white Magic. And, this depends solely of the
> "motives" for the actions of the practitioners -- which can be either in
the
> direction of "Universal brotherhood" and compassion for all sentient
beings,
> or toward the kind of evil, death cult practices engaged in by Hitler and
his
> Nazi followers.  As for the swastika ... It two has a dual meaning --
> depending on the direction of its turning (clockwise or counterclockwise)
and
> whether or not its corners are sharply angled or curved. Therefore, the so
> called "proof" given at the site that theosophy is related to the Nazi's,
as
> well as the beliefs and actions of Hitler, simply because the fifth root
race
> is called "Aryan" and the swastika appears on the symbol HPB designed for
the
> Theosophical Society -- is a false assumption... Since, the swastikas used
by
> Hitler and the one used by HPB (as an ancient symbol of the final stage of
> universal evolution or emanation out of the absolute) turn in opposite
> directions... One, indicating conquest by cruelty and force of arms, and
the
> other, toward benevolent peace and harmony.  Thus, this reference to the
> Secret Doctrine to prove that Hitler was an "Occultist" and, by
implication,
> that HPB, who taught occultism, was a proto nazi, and that all occultists
are
> evil, is completely unfair and unjust.
>
> LHM
>
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I would like to venture to add a comment to this topic.  (This is my first
in
this group, so hello everybody :-) ).  The Swastika has been used for many
hundreds of years as a religious symbol, by cultures as far apart as the
Navaho
Indians and asian Zen Buddhists.  From its usage and from HPB's comments it
represents (Possibly amongst other things) the forces of Divine
manifestation in
motion.  The cross revolving with arms bent at the end to representation a
revolving figure.  The direction depends of course on Involution and
Evolution
(but also on the view from above or below.
Just one more thought: Hitler's use was a very specific one: a black
swastika on
a red background (the dark forces moving in the field of physical
activity?).  In
any case it was over half a century *after* HPB wrote about it, so any
association (if any) was obviously of the Nazi's making.  Finally any symbol
can
be abused and/or misapplied either intentionally or unintentionally.
Charles Sitwell.



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