Theos-Talk Archives (January 2000 Message tt00034)

Dear Lucio:

Thanks for the information, which is especially valuable since you can tell
us from contemporaneous facts.

While I had attended many of the Jiddu's lectures -- did not have to pay a
dime/penny as fees, donation, love offering or for whatever "good" cause --
it was not until I had a chance to see some of his videos that I seem to
get some flavor of what he has been saying for years.

To me he seemed to indicate that we need to see things as they are -- with
no distortion because of any of our "prejudices" based on any stereotyping
-- and need for immediate action rather than philosophizing based on our
beliefs of either the past or the future etc. He also was trying to impress
on the importance of first hand information and independed decision making.

Based on the numerous books that one finds in book stores here, I think in
a very quiet way, his writings are exposed to the masses and it may take
couple of decades from now to see what kind of change they have made to the
psyche of the masses.

....mkr


At 09:37 AM 01/11/2000 +1100, you wrote:
>Dear RAM
I was born in Italy and came to Australia when I was 20
I was the 12 when This hapened. And Jiddu even at that time was very
disenchanted with theosophy. Mussolini was a great poet his path of
dictatorship was chosen by him . as he thought that the masses where
not yet ready for true democracy. I do not favor fascism but.......
looking around today I wander it it has ever been tried .
Jiddu tried hard but his message reached many empty empty sculls
everywhere

ramadoss@eden.com wrote:
>
Some time ago, I read an interesting incident.

It was during the time when Mussolini was in power and was very popular in
the country.

Jiddu Krishnamurti happened to schedule a series of talks in Rome. On the
 first day of his talk, he was very surprised. The lecture hall was full and
 the front rows were occupied by the top military brass in their shiny
 uniforms with their medals and other bureaucrats of Mussolini
 administration. The turn out of the military and government bureaucrats
 surprised even Krishnamurti.

 It appears there was some rumors that Mussolini was interested in
 Krishnamurti's philosophy and this triggered the immediate interest of the
 military brass and bureaucrats and it appears they turned out to hear him
 in the hope the turnout will reach the ears of Mussolini and be his good
 books.

 Lo and behold, the next day, at the talk all this crowd disappeared. There
 were few members of the public who were really interested in what
 Krishnamurti had to say. The disappearance of military brass and
 bureaucrats was due their having found out that after all Mussolini was not
 interested in Krishnamurti's philosophy.

 This incident simply shows very few are really interested in philosophy.
 The crowd -- in particular bureaucrats -- generally show interest for
 reasons other than real commitment to philosophy.

 As an analogy, if there were to be a *rumor* that the Theosophical Adepts
 are interested in Internet, may be all the bureacrats and others may
 suddenly show an interest in Internet because of it could please the
 Adepts!!!  Just a speculation.

 Any one listening????

 mkr
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