Theos-Talk Archives (August 1999 Message tt00025)

Dear Dallas: See my comments below.  ...doss
At 04:33 AM 6/22/1999 -0700, W. Dallas TenBroeck wrote:
>June 22
>
>Dear Doss:
>
>Thanks for the endorsement.  I am constantly amazed at the scholarship
that
>shows itself among those who contribute to our exchanges.
>
>Now if some of that valuable time could be additionally placed on the
study
>of Theosophy in order to find out if in itself it is cohesive and has
>validity, we might all profit greatly from such a study.
<paraindent><param>left</param>As a non scholar and novice, I found that
a quick review of Isis and SD, convinced me that HPB presented a
comprehensive "hypothesis" covering man(woman) and the universe. Until
such time I find a better "hypothesis", I am quite happy and content to
proceed with my life with HPB's "hypothesis" as a backdrop or foundation.
It is hoped that personal experiences may confirm or deny parts of it. As
every one knows, there are always going to be things that one may not be
able to verify personally. HPB's herself has acknowledged it in her
writings. So I would stay god speed in our studies. 
</paraindent>
>Is it possible to demonstrate independently of what HPB says in SD and
Isis
>and her Articles that The Theosophy of those early eras generated
Hinduism,
>Buddhism, etc... we would have a further demonstration and vindication
of
>the actual and present value of Theosophy.
<paraindent><param>left</param>
When we deal with the Great Religions, there are several problems. The
first one, the language used in the early days when they were founded.
The vocabulary may have had a totally different meaning than what we are
used to -- even assuming we understand the language. I do not know how
many of the religious material is written down in a tangible medium. I
assume a vast majority may have never been written down - but orally
communicated and handed down from generation to generation. Then you have
the allegorical nature as well as other means used to conceal some of the
fundamental doctrines or ideas because it would have been fatal for them
to be communicated due to then existing political conditions. Then again
as oral transmittal took place, there might have been attempts to
*improve* or edit them which would have further corrupted unconscionably.
So what we know now may by Nth hand material whose real original meaning
would have been lost. In trying to reconcile them with what HPB has
written, can be a formidable task -- unless there comes an Adept who has
first hand knowledge and can confirm or deny that HPB has written. Even
then, the Adept's word may not be accepted because he/she does not have a
PhD from a top university or even Adept's life may be at risk. These days
they may not stone or crucify but simply get shot -- guns are easy to get
and quick to kill.
So, with all the above, I do not want to discourage anyone from trying.
Let us try and see where we go and what we find.
</paraindent>mkr  
>
>
>Dal
>
>Dallas
>dalval@nwc.net 
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
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>[mailto:owner-theos-talk@pippin.imagiware.com]On Behalf Of M K 
Ramadoss
>Sent: Monday, June 21, 1999 10:09 AM
>To: theos-talk@theosophy.com
>Subject: RE: Theos-World Response to Dallas == DID HPB GO TO TIBET?
>
>
>At 07:26 AM 6/21/1999 -0700, Dallas wrote:
>>June 21 1999
>>However, the stability of THEOSOPHY as a philosophy ought to stand as
its
>>own vindication.
>>
>>I note that everyone of the so-called "critics" (from the days of HPB
to
>the
>>present) is nibbling around the edges, but no one has so far
demonstrated
>>that the CORE IDEAS and TEACHINGS are faulty as a whole.
>
>Dallas, you have hit the nail on its head. Before HPB presented the
Core
>Ideas and Teachings to the world at large, except for a handful of
people,
>world knew nothing about them and very difficult to find them either
even
>if one wanted to find them. Introducing them 120 years back was a far
more
>formidable task than it is today with the changed world culture and
with
>the modern technological amenities. Some thing to think and meditate
about.
>
>I agree that all of us who are beneficiaries of being exposed to the
Core
>Ideas and Teachings should make it easier for the novices to focus on
them.
>After all, in the final analysis we are dealing with our lives and if
each
>one of us can benefit from the Core Ideas and Teachings, they are far
more
>important than anything else. I may sound selfish; but if I cannot
benefit
>from them, how do I hope they are going to help others.
>
>Keep up the good work.
>
>....doss
>
>
>
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