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Theos-World Re: Mrs Blavatsky lied about journey in Tibet

Jun 13, 1999 02:55 PM
by David Green



Grigor------

Thanks for reminder that Mr Gilbert's research is more than confirmed by Mr Paul Johnson's work. A re-reading of Mr Johnson's chapters on Tibet shows Mrs Blavatsky's Tibetan masters were myths & "covers" for persons actually residing in India. Conclusion----Mrs Blavatsky never had reason to go to Tibet. Where is "enormity of evidence" proving Mrs Blavatsky journeyed to Tibet & was trained by 2 mahatmas? Gilbert & Johnson couldn't find the evidence.

David




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To: "Theosophy Study List" <theos-l@list.vnet.net>
Subject: Re: Mrs Blavatsky lied about journey in Tibet
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 16:55:43 EDT

In a message dated 6/13/99 12:25:49 PM Central Daylight Time,
davidgreen@hotmail.com writes:

> Recently, I read Mr. David Green's post a bit more closely. I was shocked
> >to
> >find that on the basis of one book he would actually conclude that HPB,
> >despite an enormity of evidence to the contrary, actually never went to
> >Tibet.
>
There is the book by R. Paul Johnson, titled The Masters Revealed: Madame
Blavatsky and the Myth of the Great White Lodge, SUNY Press, that is a
academic book having to pass through an blind academic review process before
it is published, that works with a number of documents, including those of
HPB, to establish on reasonable grounds that:

1. There were "mahatmas" with real historical identities and names which this
book reveals and identifies for the first time (collating a number of
previously unavailable documents of Albert Rawson, Agardi Metrovitch, Jamal
ad-Din al-Afghani, Paulos Metamon, and Louis Bimstein aka Max Theon, etc.,
etc., etc.,). So, Serapis Bey is shown to probably be the Coptic Christian
Paulos Metamon under whom Rawson and HPB studied together in the 1850s, Koot
Hoomi was the cover-identity of Thakar Singh Sandhanwalia, Morya was the
cover-identity for Maharaja
Ranbir Singh of Kashmir.

2. That by her own admission in letters, HPB inflated into mythical
proportions
the image of these "mahatmas" in order to give them political cover for a
variety of
reasons and instructed people who knew them or met them to "move the
geographical references from Kashmir and the Punjab to Tibet" (a Mahatma
Letter gave the same instruction).

3. That HPB concealed her travels with fictional accounts of where she had
been,
and that while she did have Tibetan connections, she was never personally in
Tibet. Rather, the times she claims to have been there, it was really
Sikkhim, Kashmir, or Darjeeling.

This accords with the old Imperial Russian records that are now available
since the break-up of the old Soviet Socialist Union. It has led to
subsequent research by I believe Antoine Faivre, Professor of Esoteric
Studies, Sorbonne, that the Stanzas of Dyzan are a poor rendition of the
Central Asian (Kalmuck and Mongol) version of early Dzog chen texts found
also among the Bon po, including the Kun byed rgyal po'i mdo in its essential
upadesa points (i.e. "stanzas" usually oral of a guru to direct disciple).

I think this research will make HPB and her mahatmas much more interesting,
down to earth and concrete than the inflated fantasies of many of her
followers (or actually, the followers of Besant and the headbeater guy - A.P.
Sinnett got thoroughly disgusted how Leadbeater jacked off every chance he
thought no one was around and Krishnamurti reported how Leadbeater wanted
group jack off sessions with him, his brother, and other boys.). Anyway,
back to topic, the above title makes HPB a much more interesting and complex
person (a powerful woman who got into places where women usually were
forbidden), establishes with reasonable certainty that her quest was mixed
spiritual and political (as were the motives of her teachers and companions -
in essence, anti-western imperialism and anti-Christian missionary
fundamentalism or anykind of fundamentalism, AND shows her involvements in
India home-rule BEFORE besant was even around)), and thus, that while there
were "mahatmas," they weren't the superbeings (even HPB admits it) typically
believed in by theosophers but were glossed as such, in terms of identity and
location, to protect them and HPB. HPB later regrets she created such an
inflated image of them because the members of the TS, especially Olcott (she
complains), had gone totally delusional in their fantasies of them having
fantastic powers and ruling secretly as the secret government on earth
guiding all events etc. etc. in her April 1886 letter to Franz Hartmann
(Letters of HPB to Hartmann, 369-372).

Time for some sobering up with a more realistic assessment of the greatness
of HPB and her accomplishments and her flaws and failures.

Grigor Vahan Ananikian


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