Theos-Talk Archives (April 1999 Message tt00096)

> >>...but when we repeatedly put forward a contentious view and say HPB
> and the Masters agree with it, then we do need to back it up.>>
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> Peter, "a contentious view?"  If you mean liberation in a
> single lifetime,

Not really Jerry, just speaking in general about any of us.  We all need to
back up our ideas at some point or another but obviosly not all the time.
Some times we just need to be free to speculate and play.

As far as I know, HPB never opposed the view that "pigs can't fly", but that
doesn't mean she believed they could.  So what she didn't say is no
indication of what *did* believe.  She neither taught 'liberation in a
single lifetime' nor that there were "eternal rounds of reincarnations".

She did speak of "a long series of metempsychoses and reincarnations" - the
pivotal doctrine in the 2nd Fundamental Proposition of the SD.  When KH
mentions that to become a Buddha is the highest form of Adeptship on this
earth, this implies a hopeful culmination of the series.

However HPB also speaks of "the playground of numberless universes
incessantly manifesting and disappearing" in the 2nd Fundamental Proposition
of the SD.  But to 'return' in future Manvantaras as Dhyani Buddhas has a
different flavour to it than endless reincarnations on this planet.

But I think we have gone over this ground before.  I accept you see it
differently and that's OK.

Let's not have another re-incarnation of this issue, lets go for Liberation
instead ;-)

Peter


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> then I am already on record as saying that
> HPB never said anything to oppose it. She actually didn't
> say much one way or the other except the very exoteric
> view of karmic necessity that implies eternal rounds of
> reincarnation. Now it just so happens that this view was
> taught in the old days in india, and that this view is
> exactly what Buddha opposed. Buddha proclaimed 4
> Nobel Truths, which stressed that there is a way
> out of these seemingly endless rounds of incarnations.
> HPB was a Buddhist, not a Hindu. I can't help but
> seeing a certain amount of humor in the idea that her
> Theosophy has eliminated a key element of Buddhism
> that separated it from the fatalistic views of Hinduism
> and that my attempts to restore it are labeled as
> contentious...
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