Re: Theos-World Responses to Dallas on the Will (completed)
Apr 08, 1999 02:03 AM
by LeonMaurer
(Fist mailing was accidental and is incomplete. Trash it)
In a message dated 4/6/99 4:33:29 PM, schuelergerald@optec-hq.optec.army.mil
writes:
>>>Are we to call it the MONAD ? Are we to call it the Higher EGO
>(Higher Manas or Buddhi-Manas) ?<<
>
>Yes. This is, by definition, the only true monad - an individual
>indivisible non-aggragate unit. All others are expressions of it,
>and not true monads because they are divisible into components.
>The term "higher Ego" or higher self can mean many things,
>and is usually used loosely to refer to the Reincarnating Ego.
>Buddhi-Manas is the "spiritual monad" and is a ray or expression
>of the divine monad. G de P uses the term human monad,
>but this not even close to an indivisble unit and I am not
>sure what it refers to anyway other than maybe the personality.
>The term human monad implies that every human being
>has an inner solid and substantial self, which is simply
>not so. So, I don't like that term and seldom use it.
This is a very loose interpretation of the Monad or One Unity (which is also
triune)--relating to the complete triple cycle loop of fundamental *spin*
that must pass twice through its center point and once around its
circumference in
order to be a complete and endless field having no beginning and no end.
(Ref: the nature of cyclic fields in my previous posts, as well as at:
http://www.tellworld.com/Astro.Biological.Coenergetics/ and
http://members.aol.com/uniwldarts/uniworld.artisans.guild/chakrafield.html
Therefore the Monad is the first triple field of consciousness that arises
from the Absolute All at the beginning of the Great Cycle of "Existence" and
"Experience." All analogous and corresponding *reflections* of that great
field--as the universe spins on down through it seven stages of
manifestation--are also "Monads"--defined as; *Individualities* that are also
*unities*.
On the human stage, therefore, the Monad is the first integral triple cycle
reflected down from the initial Universal consciousness field or Great Self
of All. Therefore the individualized Human Self or Monad is the integrally
linked triple fields of Atma-Buddhi-Manas centered above and around the
zero-point of Human Self awareness where all lifetime's experiences are
garnered and their karma rooted. (See Chakrafield diagram at:
http://members.aol.com/uniwldarts/uniworld.artisans.guild/chakrafield.html)
To say that there is no self is also a loose "Westernized" interpretation of
the Buddhist teachings. When asked if there was or was not a self, Buddha,
recognizing the paradoxical quandary he would put his students in, refused to
answer. Of course, as we think in the West--some Buddhists argue that if
there is no answer whether something exists or not, it must, therefore, not
exist at all. The real question is whether we are referring to the temporary
lower self, or the permanent higher Self.
However, there can be no question, from a subjective point of view that at
least, such a higher Self does exist, since it has equivalent causative and
creative powers comparable to the Self of All (or Adi Buddha). Just because
we can't sense it, or measure it, (although we certainly can "experience" it)
doesn't mean
that it can't exist. How can a root field emanating from its center
point--through which causative action occurs--not exist? This presumption of
non-existence due to non-measurability, is endemic to both Western scientific
thinking and Westernized, or exoteric Buddhist thinking. HPB teaches that on
whatever plane of consciousness one is on, everything on that plane is
literally "experienced" as "real"--including, I imagine, the experience of
the self and the Self (and, perhaps, even the SELF). Is there not a Cosmic
SELF awareness (Brahm), an overall Human Kingdom Self awareness (Manu), as
well as an individual self awareness (Me)?
Of course, such a Monad or higher Self has no relation to the "personality"
or lower self--which is strictly a self created illusion (although,
nevertheless, still existent--at least as a *cause* of karma). Thus, the
teaching that Gerry promulgates claiming that "self image" is the key to
"personal" mental health, could be confused as only applying to the lower
mind and self-image. Personal mental health with relation to the "material"
world is one thing (that psychiatrists are concerned with). Individual
mental health with relation to the "real" world is another thing (that
theosophists are concerned with). But, I'm sure Gerry will agree that a
synthesis of both higher and lower selves is a desired and worthwhile
possibility.
I think it important that before we form opinions on the nature of the monad,
karma, or the will, we first, come to a semantically clear understanding of
the distinction between the self awareness, the self consciousness, the
individual (higher) Self, and the personal (lower) self, including their
integral relationships to all the fundamental principles--(through at least
their triple, quadruple and septenary evolutionary aspects).
Anybody willing to tackle this for starters (in chart form perhaps), using
references to the teachings of HPB and the Masters, would be doing all
theosophists (as well as open-minded scientists now studying "consciousness")
a great service. It's a worthwhile goal that when all scientists can accept
the fundamental truths of theosophy, integrate, karma, monads, rebirth,
consciousness and awareness, and synthesize them with their empirical
objective truths--then, it will be relatively easy to fulfill the first
object of the Theosophical Movement--since most ordinary people already
believe that scientists know what they are talking about.
Best wishes,
LHM
-- THEOSOPHY WORLD -- Theosophical Talk -- theos-talk@theosophy.com
Letters to the Editor, and discussion of theosophical ideas and
teachings. To subscribe or unsubscribe, send a message consisting of
"subscribe" or "unsubscribe" to theos-talk-request@theosophy.com.
[Back to Top]
Theosophy World:
Dedicated to the Theosophical Philosophy and its Practical Application