Theos-Talk Archives (December 1998 Message tt00277)

SUBJECT:  Questions for Rich, Jerry, Dallas et al concerning what the
Mahatmas are talking about in their references about "Shammars",
"Dugpas" etc.

It would appear that the first reference to "Shammars" and "Red Caps"
in the Mahatma Letters is found in Letter No. 49, received by Mr. Sinnett
in early August 1881.  The passage from KH reads in the 2nd edition:

"We feel that the time is approaching, and that we are bound to choose
between the triumph of Truth or the Reign of Error and -- Terror. We
have to let in a few chosen ones into the great secret, or -- allow the
infamous Shammars to lead Europe's best minds into the most insane and
fatal of superstitions -- Spiritualism; and we do feel as if we were
delivering a whole cargo of dynamite into the hands of those, we are
anxious to see defending themselves against the Red Capped Brothers of
the Shadow."

The next reference in a Mahatma Letter to "Dugpas" and "Gelugpas"
appears in a letter from "M":

"Only, look out sharp; the Dugpas and the Gelukpas are not fighting in
Tibet alone; see their vile work in England. . . .I tell you the
Shammars are there already and their pernicious work is everywhere in
our way.  Do not regard this as metaphorical but as a real fact, which
may be demonstrated to you some day."  ML #47, 2nd edition,
March 1882.


NOW HERE ARE THE VITAL QUESTIONS:

Even if we concede for the sake of discussion that the Dugpas are
actually the Bonpas, what do the Dugpas and Shammars have to do with
events in Europe and England?

What are the Mahatmas actually referring to when referring to the
PERNICIOUS work of the Shammars?  To their VILE  work?
INFAMOUS Shammars?  And what work in Europe and
in England?

Pretty strong language!?