Theos-Talk Archives (December 1998 Message tt00257)

Dec 24th 1998

Dear Leon:

Thanks for making clear your article and information posted.  I
do not think anyone desires to have you "chew their cud for
them."  But when information is given, perhaps some indication is
needed to show where they can secure corroboration.

I'll try and send the CHRONOLOGIES.

But I find that the char-group will not accept long files.
Accordingly I can only make them available to those who send me
their own Email addresses.

Thanks and best wishes,

Dallas.

> From: "Leon Maurer" <leonmaurer@aol.com>
> Sent:	Thursday, December 24, 1998 4:57 PM
> Subject: Re: RE: Re: Waiting for the Messenger == Christianity is derived from Buddhism

In a message dated 12/18/98 4:56:46 PM, Dallas TenBroeck wrote:

>Dec 18th 1998
>
>Dallas offers:
>
>Dear LHM:
>
>Your thesis and the description of the cycles and their
>intersection and relationship with and within the Sidereal (or
>Solar) year of 25,868 years is very interesting, and much
>appreciated.
>
>However I believe it can be enhanced by actually giving the
>source references that you employed to derive your conclusions.
>Otherwise your statements are not easily supported by the
average
>reader with material that he can adduce from the writings of HPB
>or WQJ or any other source that can be accessed - astronomical,
>chronological, etc...  As they stand, I would say that they need
>to be given the kind of support that a student needs if he is to
>recheck them.  I think this is important.

Yes, for some...  But, I was only using this information as a
symbolic
approximation of the way the various cycles interrelate and
speculating on how
they interface with the TM (and the "Messenger")--in order to
make a point--
with the intent of bringing us back to the study of the SD and
off the side
issues of questioning the veracity of HPB by endless
pontificating on the
obscure practices of religious sects having nothing to do with
the fundamental
teachings of theosophy.

To consider the accuracy of the details important, and not
discuss the ideas
behind them is, to me, a sad indication of the state of
theosophical study and
work in this critical time of the TM.   My aim is to steer
students toward
studying the Secret Doctrine, and learning the methods (based on
fundamental
cyclic laws) laid down by HPB for fulfilling the action "plan" of
the
Theosophical Movement (that might create a "paradise on Earth in
the next
century" rather than throw us back another "million years of
retarded
evolution").

I'm not interested in chewing anyone's cud for them.  If they
want to learn
the secrets of the cycles and their laws (the root of all
"unexplained laws of
nature and the psychical powers latent in man"--as well as their
application
to the "plan") hidden in the Secret Doctrine, they will have to
wade through
the "blinds" and dig them out for themselves with their own "self
devised and
self determined efforts".  Therefore, I make it a rule not to
answer specific
technical  questions on these subjects unless they come from
student-
associates who can show that they fully understand the
fundamental principles
and whose motives are in accord with both HPB and WQJ.   We don't
need any
more ABs, AABs, CLs, or other disruptive pseudo theosophists,
channelers,
false Master creators, religious fanatics and proselytizers, or
other self
serving ego-trippers to divert the Movement away from the
original lines laid
down by HPB and the Masters KH & M..

Besides, I have no references to astronomical material, whether
in scientific
journals or the SD, to give any exact numbers or page references.
Anyone
could find out all that for themselves.  What I know,
theoretically and
scientifically, about cycles and the way they work and govern our
psychic
powers, comes from deep study (over more than 50 years) of not
only every word
in the Secret Doctrine (devoted or linked to scientific laws and
cosmic
engineering) but also the study of all the physical sciences and
applied arts
(and mystical white and black magic and alchemical
teachings--starting from my
father ("who is now in Heaven";-) to Moses, to Hermes, to
Pythagorous, to HPB
(and her teachers), to Gurdjieff, to Ouspensky, to Crowley, to
Perchion, and
beyond. . .  This study included, noting their correlations with
theosophical
principles--along with much yogic meditation on these subjects
over many years
of concentrated effort.

My unindexed notes, diagrams, sketches and writings, on this
subject alone,
are so voluminous that they fill a whole roomful of book margins,
file
folders, match book covers, napkins, and loose sheets of paper
that could take
a trained librarian (with more than 10 years of study in the SD)
another ten
years to sort out.  (I have no patience or time or interest in
keeping
"organized" notes or references.  My papers just serve,
haphazardly, as a
means to picture and correlate (by using both my left and right
brain
simultaneously) whatever I am reading, thinking, or meditating on
or about.
In fact, one day, I'll probably use these papers (and books,
including three
copies of the SD filled with copious coded margin notes and
hieroglyphics) for
a big bonfire--as I did with my paintings over 50 years ago when
I decided to
leave home, quit fine art, and become an observer and student of
everything.:-)

So, I can't be expected to give any references to back up any of
my
conclusions.  Just take 'em or leave 'em, study them, and either
accept them,
add to them, change them, or refute them.  But, if they work for
you, use
them.  (And, if not, throw them on the bonfire;-)

The principles one studies by their own self devised and self
determined
efforts are the important elements of understanding theosophical
truths--not
the empirical details, or the confirmations by so called experts
or
authorities--including Helena Blavatsky.  None of the scriptural
references in
the SD or other writings of HPB, or anyone else, have any
relationship to what
the Book of Dzyan (the entire basis of the SD) teaches directly,
and which is
thoroughly explained (and expanded for the "intuitive student")
by HPB--in,
around, and under the millions of extraneous words of
"confirmations" in the
SD and her other writings).

So, there's nothing to "recheck", since my knowledge is based on
my own
intuition and intelligent reasoning (in conjunction with my
scientific and
engineering background)--as well as direct answers to my
questions in deep
meditation or in dreams (by, if I may be so bold as to say, HPB,
and the
Masters standing behind her.  This might be called, "listening to
the voice of
the silence".)   Therefore, the only "expert" references to
"cycles" and the
"fields" which obey their laws I have to give out will be in my
forthcoming
book, "On The Threshold of a New Science and Technology" (when
and if my karma
allows it to get published ;-).

In the meantime, all I can offer in writing are my "preliminary
notes"
(consolidated in the form of a letter to an enquirer) based on
ALL the
theosophical scientific knowledge I gathered--which is hidden
within the words
of the SD (buried under tons of scriptural confirmations,
designed--in
addition to the teachings related to the fundamental
principles--to convince
all the rest of world of potential theosophists that theosophy
was the root of
and could substitute for, or reform and consolidate, all their
diverse and
separative organized religions)   These notes are posted on my
web site at:
<A
HREF="http://www.tellworld.com/Astro.Biological.Coenergetics/";>ht
tp://www.t
ellworld.com/Astro.Biological.Coenergetics/</A>

All students, interested in these constructive scientific and
engineering
aspects of theosophy are welcome to follow the same paths I did,
and find out
for themselves how the laws of cycles relate to the 7, 10, and 14
"coadunate
but not consubstantial" fields that compose the "triune"
Universe". . .  Or,
they can wait for my book.

(snip)
>
>I can offer if desired, a "chronology" of Christianity which is
>derived from HPB's statements made in ISIS and the SD.
>
>I can also offer an Index of articles and sources in the
>"original" Theosophical writings and in magazines THEOSOPHY and
>the THEOSOPHICAL MOVEMENT arranged chronologically so as to
cover
>the archaic and the historical periods right up to the present.
>
>This can be made available as an attachment direct to anyone who
>might desire to have a copy over the Internet.

>Dallas

I'm interested in this data, but would appreciate your posting it
on the web
for the benefit of all theosophical researchers rather than
sending it to me
personally.  I would suggest you contact John Desantis, compiler
of the
website <A
HREF="http://www.wisdomworld.org/";>www.Wisdomworld.org</A> who is
dedicated to publicly posting such information..  John is
currently scanning
hundreds of pages from THEOSOPHY magazine and would welcome any
pre-scanned
reference or index material referring to this publication.   Also
Reed Carson,
scribe and webmaster of <A
HREF="http://www.blavatsky.net/";>www.blavatsky.net
</A> is also looking for information of that nature.  Reed also
maintains his
own web server and is an Internet provider, so he has plenty of
web space for
important theosophical reference material.

Best regards,

Leon H. Maurer.

P.S.  Before signing off, I wish to go on record that I am
searching for other
theosophists who have a knowledge of the "TM Plan", are
"practical idealists",
and who also may have access to substantial funds and other
resources needed
for worldwide mass media exposition (in an "entertainment" mode)
of the
fundamental teachings of theosophy using the "language of the
age" (as
suggested by HPB).  Any contacts made will be held in strictest
confidence--with no obligations on the part of anyone wishing to
discuss this
with others of like mind (and having similar resources including
useful ideas,
connections, skills, talents, crafts, inventions or intellectual
"properties")
Anyone interested should first check out the links on my personal
web site at:
<A
HREF="http://users.aol.com/leonmaurer/LHM.index.html";>http://user
s.aol.com/leo
nmaurer/LHM.index.html</A>  Then, contact me by e-mail so that a
private e-
mail conference can be arranged.  (Please note: Anyone wishing to
join in
these discussions and take part in potential theosophical group
action, should
be equally open regarding their personal and professional
backgrounds and
qualifications.)  All recommendations and referrals will be
gratefully
appreciated and acknowledged.
LHM


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