Theos-Talk Archives (December 1998 Message tt00113)

Jerry wrote about Jnanamudra:


> >I do not practice it, but I do think it is a reasonable practice when
> >done in the Tantric context described in the literature. However, it
> >smacks too much of sex magic and is so easy to be abused that
> >it probably should be avoided by us Westerners. Jnanamudra is
> >another story because we have Jungian psychology telling us
> >that men have a feminine anima and that women have a
> >masculine animus and so a practice that can unite these seems
> >to be a much better approach for us Westerners.


Nicholas replied commenting on Jerry's reference to Jnanamudra:

> More likely the same story.  The form of Jnanamudra is a visualized
> goddess ie an elemental or deva that is sexually arousing. This
> practice can end up being just self-stimulation.


Daniel wrote taking in to consideration Nicholas's definition of
Jnanamudra:

> >Elsewhere HPB speaks of the "Brothers of the Shadow" who have "carnal
> >commerce with male and female Djins, Elementals, or Demons, call them
> >whatever you will. . . . "   She says that such "intercourse is said to
> >give *magic powers* and *Supernal Force*."
> >
> >Nicholas, is this the kind of Jnanamudra you are referring to?


Jerry replied to Daniel's question about Jnanamudra:


> Nicholas can speak for himself, but in my view, no it is definitely not.


Daniel comments on all of the above:

Looking at what Nicholas and Jerry has written above, it appears to me
that there may be some disagreement between them on what constitutes
Jnanamudra.

What is the source for Nicholas' idea about "the form of Jnanamudra is a
visualized goddess ie an elemental or deva that is sexually arousing"?

And does Jerry agree with this idea of Nicholas?  Reasons?

And is Jananmudra as defined by Nicholas the same as what HPB writes
about as "carnal commerce with male and female Djins, Elementals, or
Demons"?  If not, what is the difference, etc.?

If specific references to books on this can be given, it would be
helpful.