Theos-Talk Archives (November 1998 Message tt00480)

In a message dated 11/25/98 12:29:13 AM, DALLAS wrote:

>   OK Jerry:  you are right that most visualize eternity as
>"time ticking away."  But as we know that "time" is relative to the
>perceiver, there is somewhere an ultimate reality.  I do not know where that
>is or how it is measured.  So, being ignorant, I set the equation unsolved
>in my mental note-book, and let it rest there, while seeking for an answer.

One answer might be;  Since all being is based on vibrational motion emanating
out of what is essentially "Absolute abstract motion" or fundamental,
changeless "spin" where time is nonexistent (since time is simply "the measure
of change")--that the "ultimate reality" is just that. . .  An emptiness that
is full (of motion), and a fullness that is empty (of form or being). . .

Since that original abstract motion contains all the vibrational patterns that
ultimately define the illusive nature of the "worlds" of mental, astral and
material forms that spring forth from IT, each of these planes of existence is
as real to the beings that live and breath in them as the beings are to
themselves and to others on their same field of action.
>
>    In one place I read that Karma can be perceived in action only by Those
>who know the "ultimate divisions of time."  I puzzled over this phrase for
>long and have reached no conclusion.  But since the claim is made there
>seems to be a reason for it.

How about imagining that when the original spin first emanates out of the
emptiness into its first expression of form (e.g. The first spherical field of
spirit surrounding that zero-or "laya" point)--it makes a jump from nothing
(0) to something (1).  We can express this scientifically as 0->1.  The first
"quantum" jump, so to speak.  Since a change has occurred--that infinitesimal
instant is "the ultimate division of time", and the action of that field's
inflation is the first expression of Karma.  The next moment, as the sphere
collapses back to zero (0<-1) and thus completes the first vibration of that
field, is the second expression of Karma, and completes the circle (cycle)
from cause to effect.  Experiencing this in deep meditation as one "observes"
the mind jumping from the 0 to the 1 and back again, empowers the Yogi to
understand the nature of Karma, and the LAW under which it operates and,
thereby, gives one the ability to perceive "Karma in action" under any
circumstances.  As the Buddhists would say, "The cause and effect are
simultaneously arising".  Or, as HPB might say, "past, present and future are
one".

>    Is it that there are Those who in this set of conditions have indeed
>transcended our notions of time and its divisions ?

Yes, since they have "experienced" the ultimate division of time and thereby
understand that the reality is in the interval after the cycle of action
returns to its zero state of inaction.  That is the moment of choice when the
subsequent action-reaction can be re-directed and thereby, changed, or
transcended.  Understanding this ultimate moment which exists between every
vibrational cycle, enables the Yogi to nip karma in the bud, so to speak, by
always making the right choice in any contemplated action--since his conscious
perceptions always rests in this moment, out of time and space, rather than in
the expression of the action-reaction on the thought or material planes.
Therefore, that one is not part of (attached to) the action and, thereby,
makes no Karma and suffers no karma.
>
>    I know that the Buddha said that by doing that one secured relief from
>"Sorrow."  That is quite true, as I understand his reasons.  But that falls
>in with the idea of Karma -- and the idea that we can secure a release from
>"sorrow," by canceling or balancing any causes that we may have generated so
>as to cause OUR sorrow.

This follows from the above.  If one acts only in accord with nature (i.e.  By
being conscious of its fundamental harmony) and, thereby, governs each thought
and action accordingly, there cannot be any sorrow that one causes.  Being
thus, harmless, so to speak, that one also can not experience any personal
sorrow.  In fact, the karmic return for such "mindful" action places one in
perfect harmony with nature, and thereby, the recipient of all its bounty.
Is it a wonder that there have been reports of enlightened "Masters of Karma"
that can live almost naked for months in extreme cold and with no food other
than the dust and pollen that circulate in the air they breath and the life-
energy radiating from the Sun and reflecting from the moon that bathes their
consciousness, mind and body.  (Ref: The story of the Tibetan Saint, Naropa,
who "achieved enlightenment in one lifetime"..)
>
>    If we are able to do that we can go into "Atyantika Pralaya" as
>described by HPB in SD I p. 371 top.  The Jivanmukta or Nirvanee enters a
>personal state that is oblivion for an enormous period until the next Maha
>manvantara requires its re-emergence into manifestation.  I ask my self what
>is gained by such isolation and I then think of the description of the
>PRATYEKHA BUDDHA given at the end of the "TWO PATHS"  -- "VOICE OF THE
>SILENCE" p. 47 fn (in my book) and, the description of the DHARMAKAYA  (p.
>77-8 footnote in VOICE ).

Yes.  And, that is why, there is a choice for the prospective Nirvanee. . . To
either accept the Nirvanic oblivion (and the fact that when the new Kalpa
appears, he/she may be one of the last ones out)--or, take the Boddhisattva
vow, to continue to reincarnate so as to help all others to achieve
enlightenment.  Even here, we can put a wrong note on that choice, for when
such a Bodhisattva gets to Nirvana at the Kalpa Pralaya, all beings met there
will be his/her own enlightened companions, and at the new Kalpa, he/she will
be among the first ones out--to guide the next stage of evolution--as one of
the Buddhas, perhaps.  It's s bit funny when you come to think of it.  Can you
imagine such an unselfish choice also being selfish?  Didn't some of the
Kumaras that came out in this cycle, rebel, and refuse to create?  I suppose,
by that, there can be such a thing as "fallen angels".;-)  Or, is it that
there are no "ultimate realities"?  (. . .That we can count on, that is.:-)

Best wishes,

LHM