Theos-Talk Archives (November 1998 Message tt00327)

In a message dated 11/19/98 12:51:10 AM, you wrote:

>To Frank and Dallas,
>
>I would like to publicly apologize for my outburst. Dallas, you are
>correct, there is no need to use profanity, especially in the theosophical
>context. I am young and impetuous and unfortunately still a subject to my
>emotional rulers.
>
>Frank, we may not see eye to eye but that is not reason for me to profane
>you on a public list. I hope you can accept this apology and we may
>continue our debates in a more civil manner.
>
>Although it is no excuse, the day I wrote it I was in a very emotioanl
>state from a variety of personal issues as well as the current world
>situation Viz a ziz Malaysia, Iraq and the United States.
>
>I live in constant frustration, becuase I see the world going to hell in a
>handbasket. Am I too idealistic? I want to help the world but I really see
>no way other than trying to spread information. Theosophy has a great
>message for the world, but at the moment it falls on deaf ears.
>
>We need a new political/theosophical social science theory that rejects
>capitalism and it's associated cycles of poverty and war. There is enough
>resources for every human being in the world to be adequately clothed, fed
>and sheltered - all we need do is divert it from war expenditure. War is
>manafactured these days by profiteers behind the scenes - we only need to
>look at the situation in Iraq, Malaysia and North Korea.
>
>I will voluntarily accept any punishment metered out by my fellow
>theosophists, including suspension or expulsion from the list.
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Darren Porter

Big deal!  It's easy to apologize for profanity. . . But that's just the tip
of the iceberg.  How come you don't apologize to the numberless Hebrew people,
both alive and dead  (some, possibly, your own ancestors) you profaned
publicly with your false and unfounded accusations?

What other ulterior motives do you have that you're so anxious to ingratiate
yourself in this forum by confessing to and asking for punishment for such a
minor crime as profanity?  Who do you think you're kidding?  Copping a plea
won't excuse you for the rest of your ignorant and hurtful remarks.  People
who spew such a sick line of Nazi propaganda as you did, give us little
evidence that they can be trusted in whatever else they say or do.

in any event, continuing to try to turn theosophy into a political or
revolutionary movement to overthrow capitalism is just a waste of both your
and our time.  All it shows is that you have very little understanding of both
the purposes of the theosophical movement or the teachings of
theosophy--(which will eventually overthrow capitalism and its evils and all
the other isms and their evils in it's own way, and in its own time--without
the use of politics, polemics, propaganda or force of any kind--which never
works).  As a great theosophist, Buckminster Fuller once said, "You never can
change anything by fighting the existing.  To change something, build a new
model and make the existing obsolete."

There are many theosophists who are working on building that new model.  Maybe
it would behoove you, if you want to remain among them, to put aside your
prejudices, and listen and study for awhile until you begin to know what you
are talking about.  Then maybe you might be able to propose or join in some
theosophical action to help change the world-mind that makes some sense.
Remember, Buddha said, "Everything we are is the result of what we have
thought--and everything we will become is what we are now thinking."

Your kind of angry, blind, destructive thoughts are what made this world what
it is in the first place.  You would be wise to change them into something
more theosophically constructive.  Overthrowing a system forcibly never can
change the minds of those that formed that system.  So, how long does it take
for it to rear its head again--even stronger than before?

Capitalism, today, has become no different in its motivation (with the same
elitist people behind it) than the fascism and Nazism it forcefully overthrew
yesterday--except it's a lot stronger militarily, and its dirty tricks a bit
more sophisticated.  You play right into their hands with their divide and
conquer philosophy that always looks for a scapegoat to pit one faction
against another.  Wise up and start thinking like a mature human being who
understands that Universal Brotherhood, the first object of the theosophical
movement, means just what it says and really is a fundamental "law of nature"
that eventually will win out in the end.

With all good wishes,

Leon Maurer